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Posted by satis
Feb 2, 2020 at 03:36 AM
SheetPlanner wrote:
>Satis,
>Take a look at SheetPlanner. We have an amazing roadmap that goes way
>beyond anything available today.
I’m a registered user of both apps. SheetPlanner is nothing like OO, and there’s no way I could do extended writing as I’ve done for years with OO.
Posted by SheetPlanner
Feb 3, 2020 at 01:17 AM
Satis,
Thanks for being a customer!
Peter
satis wrote:
>
>SheetPlanner wrote:
>>Satis,
>>Take a look at SheetPlanner. We have an amazing roadmap that goes way
>>beyond anything available today.
>
>I’m a registered user of both apps. SheetPlanner is nothing like OO, and
>there’s no way I could do extended writing as I’ve done for years with
>OO.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Feb 3, 2020 at 11:14 AM
Alas, I would have to agree that SheetPlanner isn’t optimised for writing. It’s a great general outliner and planner, but you can’t input lots of text easily - in this respect, it’s much more similar to a spreadsheet than to OmniOutliner.
Not that I use OmniOutliner any more. I’ve experimented with it over and over again, but no, it annoys me too much - not least because it’s so slow (with big documents). It’s a shame, because before I moved over to macOS, it was OmniOutliner that shone beacon-like before me as the perfect example of an app the Windows ecosystem simply didn’t have…
However, there are loads of alternatives nowadays, although none of them(?) have the useful columns feature. Apart from SheetPlanner - but see above re: writing…
Cheers!
Bill
Posted by satis
Feb 3, 2020 at 02:21 PM
I’m curious - what are you using now? I’m trying to decide if I want to wean myself off OmniOutliner Pro.
Posted by Amontillado
Feb 3, 2020 at 03:25 PM
I remain intrigued by Sheetplanner. It’s quick and handy for entering tasks.
Thinking about uses, it might be good for logging. Enter a task with predicted duration (or zero duration). When you check it off, the completion date appears in the timeline. Might be a nice way to keep a journal of how things were finished.
As for writing, I can see how it could be used as an outliner, and it might be easier than it first appears. In this regard, it’s like what I discovered with Curio. At first I thought its mind maps wouldn’t be much of a replacement for Mind Node, then I discovered you can add a note to just about anything, including nodes in a mind map. Sometimes applications don’t document how general features apply to specific cases.
Using Sheetplanner as an OmniOutliner replacement may not be to everyone’s taste, but it’s possible.
Open a blank Sheetplanner file. You can’t delete the start and finish date columns, but you can hide them. Turn off the completion checkboxes.
Type your first entry title, just like in OO. Hit command-’ to start entering the note attachment, just like OO.
In OO, you hit command-enter to stop typing the note, and enter again to initiate the next topic entry.
In Sheetplanner, command-’ toggles in and out of note mode. Toggle out of the note and hit enter to start a topic below, or shift-enter to start a top above the current entry.
I wish I could turn the grid lines off, but I’m not excessively annoyed. I don’t outline for publication, anyway. In my usage, outlines are notes, not polished things.
Where Sheetplanner might actually be better than OO is that you can put start and finish dates on each topic. Now you have an outline with a timeline.
Aeon Timeline will do more with timeline data than Sheetplanner, but for getting started and quick entry of ideas, SP’s timeline might be useful.
I haven’t bought a license yet, but I plan to. My uses will be for per-project to-do lists, possibly some project planning, probably some project logging, and I’m a little disenchanted with OmniOutliner. OO seems to be dying on the vine.
I also note that it works OK to export a Sheetplanner file to OPML, pandoc it to docx, and import to Nisus Writer. The topic titles are formatted with proper heading styles, and the notes appear in the document in the right places.
Like Curio’s mind mapping, Sheetplanner looks more like an OO replacement than I thought on first glance. Life could go on without OO.