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Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Apr 25, 2019 at 02:02 PM
DataOrganizer
You can run a 14-day trial. So far it looks very nice and nimble. Only drawback for me is that it doesn’t appear to be able to print mailing labels.
Check out the videos:
http://www.bayhoff.com/videos.html#librariesAndStacks
It costs $20 per year.
Steve Z
Posted by MadaboutDana
Apr 25, 2019 at 03:37 PM
This looks really quite dinky. You could use it for all sorts of stuff.
I might have to check it out…
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Apr 25, 2019 at 06:22 PM
A little more poking around has revealed to me a few more drawbacks of this app.
1. There is no table view at present.
2. I don’t think there is a way to filter the data.
I would hope these basic database features will be coming to DataOrganizer at some point.
Steve Z
Posted by MadaboutDana
Apr 26, 2019 at 07:00 AM
You can filter using his “smart stacks”. And the search function acts as a kind of filter, since it’s non-field-specific (which could be a turnoff, actually). No highlighting, alas.
And no, it doesn’t have a table view as such.
It’s an interesting, if narrower, evolution of his BayCard concept, which in turn was an attempt to recreate HyperCard (rather clunky, but it kinda worked).
And further to my lament about Idealist, BayCard is/was, in fact, one of the very few database-like apps that allows/ed you to put any field you liked in a record. In fact, you could more or less recreate an Idealist-like setup with it. But I found it rather clumsy to use, and it doesn’t have a scripting language (although it does allow you to execute a whole bunch of built-in actions by attaching them to widgets). However, having now rediscovered it, I might play with it a bit more (although it sounds as if the developer’s given up on it). After all, it’s not a subscription app.
DataOrganizer functions more like a standard database, in that all records look the same/have the same fields. There’s a significant bug in his interesting but somewhat flawed “relationship” concept; I’ll point it out to him. Also, I can see no point whatsoever in his “Tags” field - the tags don’t automatically generate a filtered list if you click them, and the field doesn’t autosuggest matching tags as you’re creating a tag; I might point that out as well. Also, unlike BayCard, there’s no rich-text support, which is a shame (BayCard only uses the standard, rather clunky, Apple component, however, so it isn’t what I’d call beautiful).
An interesting developer, however, who’s clearly got some good ideas.
Cheers,
Bill
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Apr 27, 2019 at 10:18 AM
It looks like the developer may already have fixed the issue with relationships.
Steve Z.
MadaboutDana wrote:
You can filter using his “smart stacks”. And the search function acts as
>a kind of filter, since it’s non-field-specific (which could be a
>turnoff, actually). No highlighting, alas.
>
>And no, it doesn’t have a table view as such.
>
>It’s an interesting, if narrower, evolution of his BayCard concept,
>which in turn was an attempt to recreate HyperCard (rather clunky, but
>it kinda worked).
>
>And further to my lament about Idealist, BayCard is/was, in fact, one of
>the very few database-like apps that allows/ed you to put any field you
>liked in a record. In fact, you could more or less recreate an
>Idealist-like setup with it. But I found it rather clumsy to use, and it
>doesn’t have a scripting language (although it does allow you to execute
>a whole bunch of built-in actions by attaching them to widgets).
>However, having now rediscovered it, I might play with it a bit more
>(although it sounds as if the developer’s given up on it). After all,
>it’s not a subscription app.
>
>DataOrganizer functions more like a standard database, in that all
>records look the same/have the same fields. There’s a significant bug in
>his interesting but somewhat flawed “relationship” concept; I’ll point
>it out to him. Also, I can see no point whatsoever in his “Tags” field -
>the tags don’t automatically generate a filtered list if you click them,
>and the field doesn’t autosuggest matching tags as you’re creating a
>tag; I might point that out as well. Also, unlike BayCard, there’s no
>rich-text support, which is a shame (BayCard only uses the standard,
>rather clunky, Apple component, however, so it isn’t what I’d call
>beautiful).
>
>An interesting developer, however, who’s clearly got some good ideas.
>
>Cheers,
>Bill