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Posted by NickG
Apr 26, 2019 at 09:19 AM
All very true - I only posted that caution because, in my previous post, I’d said that there had been no reported instances of loss -
Hugh wrote:
Apologies to anyone for whom my post above may have made it seem as if
>the beta is 100 per cent safe.
>
>As with any beta software, precautions are advisable. DevonThink
>databases consist of folders that are completely separate from the
>application and its supporting files. In the case of my databases, I’ve
>ensured that I have three other copies of them, only slightly out of
>date, saved in three different locations beyond my hard disk. I’m
>re-assured that they can still be opened by DT2. I’ve also been
>re-assured by the care that the developers have applied to their work
>during the alpha and beta periods so far - for example, in their
>responses to emails about bugs. (It’s also the case that the poster whom
>NickG refers to below concedes in his post that the problem could have
>been caused by user-error. DevonThink 3, like DT2, is a “big” programme,
>and it takes a little while to get your head completely around it -
>although the just-released Help documentation appears detailed and
>extensive, and in certain respects DT3 is easier to get to grips with
>than DT2.)
>
>
>
>NickG wrote:
>And then I go to the forum and see a post concerning data loss.
>>
>>https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-warning-possible-bug-resulting-in-loss-of-data/46477/2
>>
>>
>>NickG wrote:
>>They’re emphasising that it’s a beta - not simply early access. If I
>>>were in your position, I wouldn’t risk it yet.
>>>
>>>That said, there are no public reports of data los ( a whole 2 days
>>>after the beta started!)
>>>
>>>Amontillado wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have a feel for how safe the public beta is? I imagine
>>it’s
>>>>close to stable, or they wouldn’t risk it being seen.
Posted by Simon
Apr 27, 2019 at 02:40 PM
I’ve decided not upgrade to DT3.
I find the iOS app too limited and development on it is far too slow. Yes DB’s are now available on iOS and sync is solid. But that’s where it ends. Finding anything is a nightmare and so it’s use is massively limited. As I’m at least 50% on iOS this upgrade will not benefit me.
I’s also more picky these days and have decided to stop supporting companies that discriminate against specific groups which sadly, Devonthink does.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Apr 27, 2019 at 05:59 PM
@Simon,
Interesting. I’ve moved entirely over to FoxTrot Pro recently, and I’m starting to experiment with the iOS app as well. As a replacement for DT, it’s not bad – while it doesn’t have the concordance feature, or the ingenious cross-referencing, the search engine is hugely powerful and highly configurable.
When you say DEVONthink discriminates against groups, who did you have in mind?
Posted by Paul Korm
Apr 27, 2019 at 08:10 PM
Data loss is something I’ve never experienced with DEVONthink 2 or 3. I’ve been using DEVONthink 3 in alpha and pre-public betas and public betas for several years. Never lost a thing. I transferred completely to DEVONthink 3 six months ago, and never looked back. I use DEVONthink 8 - 12 hours each day and have since v1.
Except ... due to my own stupidity, which has nothing to do with the software. My own observation is that fat fingering or not understanding how indexing works causes people problems.
Posted by Simon
Apr 27, 2019 at 08:45 PM
MadaboutDana wrote:
@Simon,
>When you say DEVONthink discriminates against groups, who did you have
>in mind?
This can be emotive because we all discriminate in some way or another and I’m not looking to start an argument with others, it’s just an observation. I work for a Christian charity and am amazed at how many software vendors discount their software for charities, but specifically state not for religious organisations (even if they are fully registered bonafide charities). They are of course entitled to do so, but this is clear discrimination against a specific group of people and they get away with it. What makes it worse in Devonthink’s case is they specifically state in their principles that, “We Treat All People Equal” (https://www.devontechnologies.com/about/principles), but obviously not when handing out discounts! Of course they are not the only one’s Trello and Airtable do the same, plus a myriad of other vendors.