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Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Apr 13, 2019 at 12:01 AM
I agree with everything you say. Especially the part about how poorly Mark Bernstein markets Tinderbox. He should be doing use-case videos like Beck does.
Steve Z
Drewster wrote:
Tinderbox continues to be an app that looks interesting, but overly
>confusing. Their site has never done a good job of selling the
>“why” of the app. As much as I’m curious, I just
>can’t consider buying it without knowing how I would use it and
>what benefit it might give me.
Posted by Paul Korm
Apr 13, 2019 at 12:14 AM
Tinderbox is a tool room full of interesting, sometimes complex tools. Just as one wouldn’t walk into a woodworkers shop, look at the tools, and ask “why”, I think “why” is not the question to ask Tinderbox. It’s just tools. Sometimes, in the Tinderbox forum, the hardest thing for contributors to answer is “what are you trying to accomplish?”.
Eastgate is generous with trials. Mark Bernstein is very generous with guidance and advice. Don’t consider buying it without taking advantage of the those things.
Drewster wrote:
Tinderbox continues to be an app that looks interesting, but overly
>confusing. Their site has never done a good job of selling the
>why; of the app. As much as I’m curious, I just
>can’t consider buying it without knowing how I would use it and
>what benefit it might give me.
Posted by Jeffery Smith
Apr 13, 2019 at 12:55 AM
I wish there was more attention paid to the manual and some videos.
Posted by JDS
Apr 13, 2019 at 01:40 AM
>Jeffery Smith wrote:
>I wish there was more attention paid to the manual and some videos.
Completely agree. There seems to be a “let them eat bytes” attitude underlying the lack interest in helping to educate users
Posted by Paul Korm
Apr 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM
Mark Bernstein has written several editions of his book, A Tinderbox Way, to help users work through common approaches to using Tinderbox. Over the past 18 years the Tinderbox forum has been an active community where users have spent a great deal of time helping one another with questions and suggestions for the projects that forum participants want to accomplish. Some users, especially Mark Anderson, have with Bernstein’s guidance contribute in depth reference sites such as aTbRef explaining the details of using agents, action code, queries, and all the other features of Tinderbox. Anderson, and other participants like Jim Fallows, Pat Maddox, Andreas Grimm, Beck Tench, and dozens of others have devoted many hours to explaining their use of Tinderbox and helping others—always with Bernstein’s active participation.
Sorry, I think “‘let them eat bytes’ attitude” is unwarranted.
JDS wrote:
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>>Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>I wish there was more attention paid to the manual and some videos.
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>Completely agree. There seems to be a “let them eat bytes” attitude
>underlying the lack interest in helping to educate users