Omnifocus as a Tool for Lists, not Tasks
Started by Beck
on 3/21/2019
Paul Korm
3/24/2019 12:18 pm
Whois says the "owner" is located in Panama. But, that is all dependent on who and how the site registration was filed.
https://whois.ws/whois/dynalist.io
Dynalist FAQ says
"Where is my data hosted? Your data is hosted on DigitalOcean in the United States, where the file attachments you upload are hosted on AWS provided by Amazon."
https://help.dynalist.io/article/116-where-is-my-data-hosted
Their website mentions the developers names -- if you're into parsing the meaning of such things.
https://dynalist.io/d/7sqNLEzEwiMjR_xg5Prkx1o5
They have a Twitter account you could ask "where are you"?
https://twitter.com/DynalistHQ
They have a forum also
https://talk.dynalist.io
Dr Andus wrote:
https://whois.ws/whois/dynalist.io
Dynalist FAQ says
"Where is my data hosted? Your data is hosted on DigitalOcean in the United States, where the file attachments you upload are hosted on AWS provided by Amazon."
https://help.dynalist.io/article/116-where-is-my-data-hosted
Their website mentions the developers names -- if you're into parsing the meaning of such things.
https://dynalist.io/d/7sqNLEzEwiMjR_xg5Prkx1o5
They have a Twitter account you could ask "where are you"?
https://twitter.com/DynalistHQ
They have a forum also
https://talk.dynalist.io
Dr Andus wrote:
Could someone though enlighten me
where this company is based? There seems to be zero info about their
geographical location on their website.
Dr Andus
3/24/2019 12:55 pm
Paul Korm wrote:
Thanks for the info. I find it a bit curious as to how unforthcoming they are about revealing the actual location of the business.
Having said that, WorkFlowy are not that much clearer about it on their public-facing site either, though once you subscribe, they do reveal their address, and it is also published on 3rd party sites like Bloomberg:
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=274433958
Searching for the names of the two developers reveals that they were educated in Canada, though some of the info suggested that at least one of them is based in San Francisco.
I would understand why a small web business wouldn't want to publish their phone number, but to at least reveal the mailing address or the country they are based in would help develop some trust.
I am seriously considering a subscription, but not even knowing which country the company is based in is holding me back, as it would limit the nature of information I would be willing to use this service for.
Whois says the "owner" is located in Panama. But, that is all
dependent on who and how the site registration was filed.
https://whois.ws/whois/dynalist.io
Thanks for the info. I find it a bit curious as to how unforthcoming they are about revealing the actual location of the business.
Having said that, WorkFlowy are not that much clearer about it on their public-facing site either, though once you subscribe, they do reveal their address, and it is also published on 3rd party sites like Bloomberg:
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=274433958
Searching for the names of the two developers reveals that they were educated in Canada, though some of the info suggested that at least one of them is based in San Francisco.
I would understand why a small web business wouldn't want to publish their phone number, but to at least reveal the mailing address or the country they are based in would help develop some trust.
I am seriously considering a subscription, but not even knowing which country the company is based in is holding me back, as it would limit the nature of information I would be willing to use this service for.
Paul Korm
3/24/2019 12:56 pm
Principals are Erica Xu
http://ericaxu.com/#resume
and Shida Li
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lishid/
They seem to be Waterloo grads, located in California.
http://ericaxu.com/#resume
and Shida Li
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lishid/
They seem to be Waterloo grads, located in California.
Paul Korm
3/24/2019 12:58 pm
... and the company
https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?keywords=Dynalist
As typical -- all virtual and virtually everywhere
https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?keywords=Dynalist
As typical -- all virtual and virtually everywhere
Beck
3/29/2019 1:58 am
A little update since digesting your experiences and recommendations from this thread.
I've modified my practice to consolidate some lists I was managing in OF so that they are a single item with an OmniOutliner file linked in the notes. I've also discovered this gem of a script that'll convert views in OF to OO files (why isn't this standard in the software to begin with?!).
http://curtclifton.net/export
I've modified my practice to consolidate some lists I was managing in OF so that they are a single item with an OmniOutliner file linked in the notes. I've also discovered this gem of a script that'll convert views in OF to OO files (why isn't this standard in the software to begin with?!).
http://curtclifton.net/export
Dr Andus
5/28/2019 11:11 pm
Paul Korm wrote:
Sounds like Dynalist are thinking of migrating the service (and the data) from DigitalOcean:
https://talk.dynalist.io/t/2019-05-22-dynalist-outage-post-mortem/4872
Dynalist FAQ says
"Where is my data hosted? Your data is hosted on DigitalOcean in the
United States, where the file attachments you upload are hosted on AWS
provided by Amazon."
Sounds like Dynalist are thinking of migrating the service (and the data) from DigitalOcean:
In all likelihood, a migration will be required as we are disappointed with the current product offering and support from DigitalOcean.
https://talk.dynalist.io/t/2019-05-22-dynalist-outage-post-mortem/4872
jaslar
5/30/2019 1:34 pm
Bill wrote
>DynaList
I've experimented with DynaList recently and like much about it. Many
shortcomings though: I cannot see how to split a document. When a list
of checkboxes has numerous finished items cannot easily hide them.
Tags autocomplete is good, but the app only remembers tags in the
current document -- doesn't offer autocomplete suggestions from a
universal app-wide list of tags, defeating the purpose of autocomplete.
DynaList support isn't. They never respond to questions (including
ignoring most of what users write in their forum).
I just tested the process of splitting a file.
1. Create new doc.
2. Go to a spot where you want to split it
3. Add a new top header (with everything else subordinate below it)
4. DRAG the new header to the left panel.
Et voila! A new, split doc!
jaslar
5/30/2019 1:40 pm
I use the "Move to" command, which allows me to file completed items. But it's one at a time. Dynalist needs mark and gather.
MadaboutDana wrote:
MadaboutDana wrote:
@stephen
Wow, I didn't know it could import documents - thanks for the tip.
Thanks also for the tip about universal tagging!
@paul
I use a top-level item labelled "Archive", into which I drag and drop
all completed tasks. Okay, it's slightly tedious to do that, but it also
acts as a kind of overview/mopping-up operation that reminds me of stuff
I might have overlooked, etc. Another option is to create an archive
subitem under each major heading (I've also used that approach in other
outliners). It would be good to have a "disappear" option for completed
items, but hey, I'm sure they'll get around to it.
avernet
6/11/2019 5:56 pm
Beck wrote:
Thank you for the update, Beck; so I gather you've started moving some of your notes out of OmniFocus and into OmniOutliner. I'm curious to learn if you find a way to make that work. In the past, I've found that having things related to a project in 2 systems (next actions in OmniFocus and "notes" in OmniOutliner) added too much friction for me. But keeping everything in one system has its challenges as well, and I'm not sure OmniFocus is appropriate for that.
And some reading this might be interested in Beck's "Learn OmniFocus LIVE" session (too bad it's member-only!).
https://learnomnifocus.com/live/2019-06-19-omnifocus-3-workflows-with-beck-tench/
‑Alex
I've modified my practice to consolidate some lists I was managing in OF
so that they are a single item with an OmniOutliner file linked in the
notes.
Thank you for the update, Beck; so I gather you've started moving some of your notes out of OmniFocus and into OmniOutliner. I'm curious to learn if you find a way to make that work. In the past, I've found that having things related to a project in 2 systems (next actions in OmniFocus and "notes" in OmniOutliner) added too much friction for me. But keeping everything in one system has its challenges as well, and I'm not sure OmniFocus is appropriate for that.
And some reading this might be interested in Beck's "Learn OmniFocus LIVE" session (too bad it's member-only!).
https://learnomnifocus.com/live/2019-06-19-omnifocus-3-workflows-with-beck-tench/
‑Alex
Beck
6/17/2019 3:32 am
Alessandro Vernet wrote:
Thank you for the update, Beck; so I gather you've started moving some
of your notes out of OmniFocus and into OmniOutliner. I'm curious to
learn if you find a way to make that work.
Hi Alex - I have sort of found myself a little bit in between the two. For my someday/maybe projects, I've been keeping an OO file with my thoughts. This keeps that list tidy and out of my way. When a someday/maybe idea is ready to become a project, I reference the OO file and create an OF project out of it (but when I recently did this, I didn't find copy and paste was an adequate solution—I came up with a custom project structure inside OF and made new tasks based on the lists I'd created in OO).
I've been making lots and lots of notes in OF (but only for active projects). I tag them "Note to Self" and have that tag paused so these notes don't come up in perspective views. It's not perfect, but it's also really helping. For example, over the last several months, I've created dozens of "notes to self" for a class I'm teaching this summer. When I went to create the syllabus, I had all those notes ready for me. I found it really helpful and am 100% sure the class is better for OF serving as my memory for ideas and inspirations I'd otherwise have forgotten.
And some reading this might be interested in Beck's "Learn OmniFocus
LIVE" session (too bad it's member-only!).
I think this will be fun! I do believe the video will be available for everyone after some members-only time period.
Beck
avernet
6/17/2019 9:51 pm
Beck wrote:
Thank you Beck for sharing!
‑Alex
Hi Alex - I have sort of found myself a little bit in between the two. […]
Thank you Beck for sharing!
‑Alex
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