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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Jan 31, 2019 at 07:36 PM
Just found this linked from the Sorted3 website, and thought it was quite relevant:
“Millionaires Don’t Use To-Do Lists”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinkruse/2015/07/10/to-do-lists-time-management/#54e613644413
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>I just want to know what app you turn to most often to management
>your task list/projects.
Posted by Adrian
Jan 31, 2019 at 08:50 PM
But their employees do! haha
Posted by nathanb
Feb 1, 2019 at 03:31 PM
>“Millionaires Don’t Use To-Do Lists”
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinkruse/2015/07/10/to-do-lists-time-management/#54e613644413
>
This was amusing. Referred to several people who ‘schedule everything’ and the main takeaway was to set your calendar event default to 15 minutes and micro-schedule most minutes of your day…..
That’s….that’s a to-do list. With an emphasis on every task being assigned a time.
I’m not disagreeing with the article, though scheduling every minute of my day seems at least as burdensome as the most nerdy ‘gtd system’. The implication of the title is that successful people just “do what’s important” without wasting time micromanaging their task plans….and they achieve this by…micromanaging their task plans.
It should have been titled “If you aren’t a disciplined person, system won’t help”
Posted by satis
Feb 1, 2019 at 08:34 PM
nathanb wrote:
>This was amusing. Referred to several people who ‘schedule everything’
>and the main takeaway was to set your calendar event default to 15
>minutes and micro-schedule most minutes of your day…..
>
>That’s….that’s a to-do list. With an emphasis on every task being
>assigned a time.
It’s the difference between generalized lists (that could be anywhere from pie-in-the-sky to imminent) and actionable tasks. You need both, but the calendar perhaps is the place for the latter.
I use Todoist and I find the regular lists to be mediocre - the subtasks need to be dragged around on the iPhone, and the Mac version does not utilize the command-keys available on the web version… and it doesn’t look very good, especially compared to the competition. But it handles actionable tasks and language parsing extremely well, and I use it only for actionable tasks, where it automatically places dated/timed events onto my Google Calendar. I think that’s the kind of thing the article is getting at.
But I use the other type of list *all the time* but just not with Todoist.
I think the article was successful though… in getting eyeballs onto the website, lol.
Posted by Dr Andus
Feb 3, 2019 at 01:36 PM
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>“Millionaires Don’t Use To-Do Lists”
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinkruse/2015/07/10/to-do-lists-time-management/#54e613644413
One problem with that article is that it suggests a causation or correlation where there may be none.
Rather than suggesting that these people (that constitute a miniscule proportion of the world’s population that needs to manage their todos) have become super successful because they used a calendar instead of a todo list, an alternative explanation may be that these people had an extraordinary skill or resource (which they may have inherited or developed themselves through hard work) that made them so successful that in their daily lives they can delegate most of their menial todos to other people, which probably includes even the broad management of their calendars.
Having said that, modern calendar software have become very sophisticated and are interesting tools.
If you think about Google Calendar and its competitors, you are effectively dealing with a dynamic grid (that moves according to the passage of time), which you can populate with differently coloured cards of varying sizes, which can be freely repositioned and readjusted. It is a very powerful and pliable tool, with realistic constraints.
It is true that every time my given todo system collapses due to some unforeseen event, which then becomes the top priority as the one thing that needs to get done by a critical deadline, I always fall back onto the calendar, as the main space where everything is managed (as there is no more time for faffing about with a todo list at one point, given that all the other todos had become less important for the time being).
Nevertheless, when the crisis is over, I always need to get back to my WorkFlowy and Google Keep lists, Gantt charts, and ConnectedText projects, to regain an overview of my original priorities (as crises are usually imposed on me externally, not of my choosing).
Maybe this article is thinking of todo lists too dogmatically. For me a todo list is not a list of todos that must get done, but a space for thinking about them, organising them, working them out as problems, archiving them, and the vast majority of them will never get done, and that’s fine, in fact the whole purpose of the system (prioritisation).