Just found out -- and can't remember whether it has been noted here -- that the Inspiration folks have a new web-based mind map and outline tool. I have just signed up so cannot recommend. However, follow the link below for a review and link to Webspiration.

http://mindmappingsoftwareblog.com/webspiration/

Daly

No hoist (or "focus-in," as Inspiration call it).

Stephen, I had noted that also -- yet what attracts me to this program is that for a web-based mind mapper -- or a web-based outliner -- it seems advanced of anything I have seen yet in either category. I think it will be interesting to see how they move it along, and what the ultimate cost will be to users once out of the beta period.

I join you in stressing to any developers who read this site to note how important a hoist mechanism is to people who work with outlines a lot. Not having this feature is a shortcut that will ultimately cost you customers. It's not as though we're back in the 20th century -- which did manage to produce one of the all time great outliners in Grandview.

Daly

Stephen R. Diamond wrote:

No hoist (or "focus-in," as Inspiration call it).

Daly de Gagne wrote:

I join
you in stressing to any developers who read this site to note how important a hoist
mechanism is to people who work with outlines a lot.

Hmm, I work with outlines a lot, and I think I've only used that feature once, maybe twice.

On the other hand, as a developer I did add Focus to Opal. And I heartily discourage other developers from adding this. I've got enough competition as it is. Go add, um, I can't think of anything utterly useless.