OT - GMail Configuration

Started by Ken on 11/25/2018
Ken 11/25/2018 10:45 pm
I know this is an off topic question, but I am at my wits end trying to search the internet for a solution. Sometimes I get behind in managing my Inbox on my GMail accounts. And when I do get some time to do review/delete/archive cleanup of messages, I usually start at the oldest message that has not been addressed and work forward. When I do this, or any message action in Outlook, Outlook remembers my position (in all folders) and highlights where I am or next to where I was if I deleted a message. This is very handy as I can easily pick up where I left off when reviewing messages. GMail, however, does not seem to offer this feature, or at least I cannot find it. Does anybody know if there is a way to get GMail to show where I am in the Inbox or a tag list (folder) when I return to it from deleting a message?

Thanks,

--Ken
Ken 11/28/2018 4:24 am
Thank you for the reply and the links, but perhaps I was not clear about what I am trying to solve as I do not need notes attached to my email messages as these apps offer. What I am trying to solve is GMail's lack of a line/highlight cursor that shows you where you are in your Inbox. In Outlook, you can select a message and if you delete it while open, the Inbox cursor highlights the next message in the list. In Gmail, if you delete a message, there is no cursor to show you where you are in the Inbox list. So, if you were in the middle somewhere, GMail will not show you where you were prior to deleting a message. I am hoping this makes sense (and probably should to those who use Outlook on any regular basis)>
.

--Ken
washere 11/28/2018 6:09 am
In the last part of your initial post you mentioned the possibility of a "tag list (folder)", that's why I suggested those two. Attached Notes can be tags in the first, and a folder(s) can be setup to move unread emails to, and then process one by one, in the second extension. I don't know any listing view customization, but if I come across once, will post.
Alexander Deliyannis 11/28/2018 11:25 am
Hi Ken,

I am using Gmail (the professional G Suite actually) with the Dark theme. I just checked and I do see a cursor, though it may not be as evident as in Outlook. It is a vertical blue line at the left of the last read message.

I checked another account with the default white theme and did not see such a cursor. Curious.

The cursor marks the last read message. If I delete the message, it then marks the one which was just above the one deleted.


Ken wrote:
In Gmail, if
you delete a message, there is no cursor to show you where you are in
the Inbox list. So, if you were in the middle somewhere, GMail will not
show you where you were prior to deleting a message. I am hoping this
makes sense (and probably should to those who use Outlook on any regular
basis)>

Ken 11/28/2018 3:56 pm
washere wrote:
In the last part of your initial post you mentioned the possibility of a
"tag list (folder)", that's why I suggested those two. Attached Notes
can be tags in the first, and a folder(s) can be setup to move unread
emails to, and then process one by one, in the second extension. I don't
know any listing view customization, but if I come across once, will
post.

I was using the folder (or tag view in GMail terminology) as an example and am sorry that it created some confusion. But, the apps that you recommended are quite interesting so I am glad you recommended them. They may come in handy for other uses.

Thanks,

--Ken
Ken 11/28/2018 3:57 pm
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Hi Ken,

I am using Gmail (the professional G Suite actually) with the Dark
theme. I just checked and I do see a cursor, though it may not be as
evident as in Outlook. It is a vertical blue line at the left of the
last read message.

I checked another account with the default white theme and did not see
such a cursor. Curious.

The cursor marks the last read message. If I delete the message, it then
marks the one which was just above the one deleted.

Very Interesting! I do not normally like dark themes, but this is the behavior that I have been looking for, so I will have to give it a try. Thanks for pointing this out, Alexander.

--Ken

washere 11/29/2018 3:14 am
Half the time I do not use browsers for my email accounts. I used to use Bluemail on chromebook/android a lot but stopped as they're still fairly anon and also were sending id/passwords un-encrypted. Never got into Aquamail on android.

So now half the time I just use trusty old Thunderbird (Mozilla, old, free) on Windows. On it I got gmail accounts/yahoo/my websites domains etc. Has hundreds of plugins/themes/extensions, can set it up any way, much better than outlook imho. Hope this helps someone looking for a replacement for outlook.

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/extensions/


washere 11/29/2018 3:23 am
P.S. also available on Linux, I have Linux desktop and apps, WSL, usually running on my laptops on second virtual desktops side-by-side with Windows. They also do Macs but Android and iOS are not in the pipeworks, don't hold your breath, not happening.

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/all/
Ken 11/29/2018 6:47 pm
washere wrote:
Half the time I do not use browsers for my email accounts. I used to use
Bluemail on chromebook/android a lot but stopped as they're still fairly
anon and also were sending id/passwords un-encrypted. Never got into
Aquamail on android.

So now half the time I just use trusty old Thunderbird (Mozilla, old,
free) on Windows. On it I got gmail accounts/yahoo/my websites domains
etc. Has hundreds of plugins/themes/extensions, can set it up any way,
much better than outlook imho. Hope this helps someone looking for a
replacement for outlook.

I tend to just use the browser for Gmail, but a client might not be a bad idea. It is something to consider, but it does ad another layer to the mix.

--Ken
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/extensions/


washere 11/30/2018 1:04 am
I themed it to be jet black all over, even the email contents, plus other plugins/extensions for all the email accounts inside, mostly my own domains/websites.

If you need help adding email accounts. configuring/applying the plugins/extensions etc., let me know. It is free, open source, safe, huge following so it will last for decades unlike many commercial or single dev closed apps. It keeps growing, can have chat, RSS, news client, etc etc.


Ken wrote:
washere wrote:
Half the time I do not use browsers for my email accounts. I used to use
>Bluemail on chromebook/android a lot but stopped as they're still
fairly
>anon and also were sending id/passwords un-encrypted. Never got into
>Aquamail on android.
>
>So now half the time I just use trusty old Thunderbird (Mozilla, old,
>free) on Windows. On it I got gmail accounts/yahoo/my websites domains
>etc. Has hundreds of plugins/themes/extensions, can set it up any way,
>much better than outlook imho. Hope this helps someone looking for a
>replacement for outlook.

I tend to just use the browser for Gmail, but a client might not be a
bad idea. It is something to consider, but it does ad another layer to
the mix.

--Ken
>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/
>
>https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/extensions/
>
>
Donovan 11/30/2018 10:05 pm
For better or worse, I don't mess with trying to manage by Gmail. The search is so good and almost instant that anything I need I can find in seconds. The Gmail filtering is also helpful when I have to use it. Too much time to manage it, but I know my method would drive many others crazy.
Donovan 11/30/2018 10:06 pm


Donovan wrote:
For better or worse, I don't mess with trying to manage by Gmail. The
search is so good and almost instant that anything I need I can find in
seconds. The Gmail filtering is also helpful when I have to use it. Too
much time to manage it, but I know my method would drive many others
crazy.

I meant manage MY Gmail - not BY Gmail.
Ken 12/16/2018 12:55 am
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Hi Ken,

I am using Gmail (the professional G Suite actually) with the Dark
theme. I just checked and I do see a cursor, though it may not be as
evident as in Outlook. It is a vertical blue line at the left of the
last read message.

I checked another account with the default white theme and did not see
such a cursor. Curious.

The cursor marks the last read message. If I delete the message, it then
marks the one which was just above the one deleted.

Well, I finally got around to trying the Dark theme today on my desktop. Unfortunately, there is no blue vertical line visible anywhere. :(

--Ken
Alexander Deliyannis 12/16/2018 7:58 am
Ken wrote:
Well, I finally got around to trying the Dark theme today on my desktop.
Unfortunately, there is no blue vertical line visible anywhere. :(

It turns out that this has nothing to do with the theme after all, but is probably part of the updated Gmail interface; I checked and now see it with the default theme as well, even on free gmail accounts.

In this article from May https://www.computerworld.com/article/3269415/email/25-tips-for-getting-the-most-out-of-the-new-gmail-features.html the blue line is clearly visible on the image under "Interface enhancements"

I wonder whether you have opted out of the new interface, and are still using the 'classic' look and feel.

HTH
Ken 12/16/2018 6:39 pm
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Ken wrote:
>Well, I finally got around to trying the Dark theme today on my
desktop.
> Unfortunately, there is no blue vertical line visible anywhere. :(

It turns out that this has nothing to do with the theme after all, but
is probably part of the updated Gmail interface; I checked and now see
it with the default theme as well, even on free gmail accounts.

In this article from May
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3269415/email/25-tips-for-getting-the-most-out-of-the-new-gmail-features.html
the blue line is clearly visible on the image under "Interface
enhancements"

I wonder whether you have opted out of the new interface, and are still
using the 'classic' look and feel.

HTH

Hi Alexander,

Thank you for the reply and the link to the article. I do see the line int he article photo. but am not able to get it to appear no matter what I have done to my settings, themes or display density, and I am using the new interface. Very frustrating.

--Ken
Ken 12/16/2018 6:48 pm
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Ken wrote:
>Well, I finally got around to trying the Dark theme today on my
desktop.
> Unfortunately, there is no blue vertical line visible anywhere. :(

It turns out that this has nothing to do with the theme after all, but
is probably part of the updated Gmail interface; I checked and now see
it with the default theme as well, even on free gmail accounts.

In this article from May
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3269415/email/25-tips-for-getting-the-most-out-of-the-new-gmail-features.html
the blue line is clearly visible on the image under "Interface
enhancements"

I wonder whether you have opted out of the new interface, and are still
using the 'classic' look and feel.

HTH

Sometimes the internet is our friend! After searching a bit, I think that the blue line is tied to keyboard shortcuts, which I did not have enabled. I turned the feature on and the blue line appeared. Thank you for your assistance, Alexander!

--Ken