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Posted by Stephen Diamond
Nov 2, 2018 at 01:27 AM
Franz,
Simple outliner, but I wouldn’t spurn a general writing environment if it contained an adequate outliner, for example, Word if it had unlimited levels and hoist.
The more I find I can’t use Inspiration the more its feature set appeals to me. But it seems to have an aging infrastructure that goes unrepaired. We both had installation problems that shouldn’t happen. Tech support refuses to acknowledge blatant bugs. But worst, it has a file size limit of 16MB.
Franz Grieser wrote:
@Stephen: There seems to be confusion about what you are really looking
>for. Is it a “simple” outlining tool (such as Inspiration, UV Outliner)
>or a full-featured writing environment (Word, Scrivener, Sente).
>
>Re Inspiration: Installation simply did not finish correctly. There is
>an Insp9IE.exe on my hard drive but it won’t start.
>
>
Posted by Stephen Diamond
Nov 2, 2018 at 01:33 AM
MadaboutDana,
I didn’t interpret Franz to be recommending the full-featured writing environment alternative.
If I were to use a two-pane app, Scrivener would need be my choice. In fact, I strated out using it. It has to do with styles of work: I prefer continuing rather than writing in disjointed parts that I later assemble like a puzzle.
Scrivener really is nothing like an adequate one-pane outliner, and it doesn’t really pretend to be. (It isn’t apparent to me how you can even hide the second pane.) The tree pane is too constricted, body text can’t be entered there, and worst of all, the undo command doesn’t even work in the tree pane!
MadaboutDana wrote:
Franz is quite right. And of course you can turn Scrivener into a simple
>one-pane outliner if you want to (using the appropriate Workspace
>setup). But with all the bells and whistles in the background if you
>should need them…
>
>Franz Grieser wrote:
>@Stephen: There seems to be confusion about what you are really looking
>>for. Is it a “simple” outlining tool (such as Inspiration, UV Outliner)
>>or a full-featured writing environment (Word, Scrivener, Sente).
>>
>>Re Inspiration: Installation simply did not finish correctly. There is
>>an Insp9IE.exe on my hard drive but it won’t start.
>>
>>
Posted by Stephen Diamond
Nov 2, 2018 at 01:33 AM
MadaboutDana,
I didn’t interpret Franz to be recommending the full-featured writing environment alternative.
If I were to use a two-pane app, Scrivener would need be my choice. In fact, I strated out using it. It has to do with styles of work: I prefer continuing rather than writing in disjointed parts that I later assemble like a puzzle.
Scrivener really is nothing like an adequate one-pane outliner, and it doesn’t really pretend to be. (It isn’t apparent to me how you can even hide the second pane.) The tree pane is too constricted, body text can’t be entered there, and worst of all, the undo command doesn’t even work in the tree pane!
MadaboutDana wrote:
Franz is quite right. And of course you can turn Scrivener into a simple
>one-pane outliner if you want to (using the appropriate Workspace
>setup). But with all the bells and whistles in the background if you
>should need them…
>
>Franz Grieser wrote:
>@Stephen: There seems to be confusion about what you are really looking
>>for. Is it a “simple” outlining tool (such as Inspiration, UV Outliner)
>>or a full-featured writing environment (Word, Scrivener, Sente).
>>
>>Re Inspiration: Installation simply did not finish correctly. There is
>>an Insp9IE.exe on my hard drive but it won’t start.
>>
>>
Posted by Stephen Diamond
Nov 2, 2018 at 01:37 AM
I don’t disparage two-pane outliners. Obviously, people generally find them more useful. If I were writing a “highly structured text,” I would probably choose one. But fore me a book is basically an extended essay.
22111 wrote:
>But using 1-pane outliners for heavy work is beyond me.
Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Nov 2, 2018 at 08:01 PM
Stephen R. Diamond wrote:
> I haven’t found any provision for a distinction between headings and text. Did I miss it?
Hi Stephen,
In InfoQube v110, you can now identify items as being heading or normal text. This is used by both Outline Styles and Labels.
It is also used by the new style-based copy outline feature, which combines 1st pane items and sub-items with 2nd pane content to create a “print-ready” compound document.
This should make it an excellent writing environment, even for long documents, as it combines the best features of 1-pane and 2-pane ouliners.
Release notes here:
https://infoqubeim.com/drupal5/?q=node/4311
Documentation here (in process of being written):
https://infoqubeim.com/drupal5/?q=node/4335
Pierre Paul Landry
IQ Designer