Cotoami - Piggydb developer's new project

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Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 14, 2018 at 08:23 PM

Blog post explaining why Cotoami has replaced Piggydb:

https://piggydb.net/2018/10/07/the-10th-anniversary-of-piggydb/

https://www.patreon.com/cotoami

I played with the demo a bit, but I have to admit that I didn’t quite get it. I wonder if anyone here has got a bit more of an insight into the potential of Cotoami.

Posted by Paul Korm
Oct 15, 2018 at 10:51 AM

Lots of idiosyncratic jargon, but looks like a kind of concept map (perhaps with custom metadata) that has social networking features. Has a “been there, done that” feeling. I didn’t sign into the demo since it requires revealing one’s GitHub credentials, which doesn’t seem prudent.

Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 15, 2018 at 12:14 PM

Paul Korm wrote:
> I didn’t sign into the demo
>since it requires revealing one’s GitHub credentials, which doesn’t seem
>prudent.

One could also sign in with some kind of a temporary email, if you don’t want your identity collected, but I agree, it’s not making things easier.

Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Oct 22, 2018 at 04:07 PM

Piggydb’s developer had made another attempt at a chat-to-knowledge service with Oinker https://oinkerme.wordpress.com/about/ which now seems to be defunct. I understand that both for Piggydb and Oinker, visual mapping was considered as an afterthought, following users’ requests. Apparently Cotoami is an attempt to integrate graph capabilities from the start, while maintaining the bottom-up logic.

While there is a social component, allowing one to share Cotos (note items) with others, the main application seems to be targeted to lone users. Knowledge is developed similarly to TheBrain, in the sense that one can enter unrelated items and consider possible connections along the way. Structure then emerges gradually, rather than being itself the top-down driver, as in a mind map or outline.

Compared to TheBrain, Cotoami is much simpler and text oriented at its core, similar to Brainstorm, Maxthink and Sense. The former two are no longer being developed, so for me Cotoami is of particular interest. I am hopeful that its developer will stick with it, and have opted to support him via Patreon in this direction.

Posted by merrimanbt
Nov 11, 2018 at 11:52 PM

Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Piggydb’s developer had made another attempt at a chat-to-knowledge
>service with Oinker https://oinkerme.wordpress.com/about/ which now
>seems to be defunct. I understand that both for Piggydb and Oinker,
>visual mapping was considered as an afterthought, following users’
>requests. Apparently Cotoami is an attempt to integrate graph
>capabilities from the start, while maintaining the bottom-up logic.
> >While there is a social component, allowing one to share Cotos (note
>items) with others, the main application seems to be targeted to lone
>users. Knowledge is developed similarly to TheBrain, in the sense that
>one can enter unrelated items and consider possible connections along
>the way. Structure then emerges gradually, rather than being itself the
>top-down driver, as in a mind map or outline.
> >Compared to TheBrain, Cotoami is much simpler and text oriented at its
>core, similar to Brainstorm, Maxthink and Sense. The former two are no
>longer being developed, so for me Cotoami is of particular interest. I
>am hopeful that its developer will stick with it, and have opted to
>support him via Patreon in this direction.

Have you been using Cotoami at all? Any thoughts?

I’ve been having fun with making different ‘timelines’ or ‘chats’ for topics and dumping in quotes/ideas/comments etc into them. Anything useful I pin to the timeline’s board.

This methodology will become even more fruitful when re-posting to other timelines is added.

I’ve yet to use much linking/graphic yet as all the mechanisms behind it feel clumsy and I don’t feel like it is adding much to my notes considering I’m working more top-down. Maybe I’ll be more open when drag and drop linking is implemented.

Would love to hear anyone else’s experiences/use cases.

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