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Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Mar 4, 2019 at 02:35 PM
I just gave Visual Outliner a quick look. I’m always excited to try a new outliner, but my first impressions are not favorable. Some apps when you try them make you want to keep on going. VO made me want to flee. It feels pretty rudimentary for the most part, other than a few sort of flourishes, like The Bucket, which is a temporary place to store ideas. In practice, The Bucket seems pretty useless.
You can add start and due dates to items in your outline, but that information goes in the “Tracking” tab of the “Properties” window, and doesn’t appear IN your outline at all. So you basically have to wallow around among your listings to find out what is due and when. More uselessness.
All of the buttons are grayed out, which usually indicates (at least in my experience) that they are unavailable at the time. Not so with Visual Outliner (which is kind of ironic).
And it costs $60!
Steve Z.
Luhmann wrote:
Since this group is called Outliner Software, worth noting that the Goal
>Enforcer developers have a new (windows-only) outlining app:
>
>https://www.visualoutliner.com/
>
>I don’t use windows, but I thought it worth a mention.
Posted by Lucas
Mar 4, 2019 at 05:08 PM
MadaboutDana wrote:
Outlinely is very good, but ironically, I find I’ve moved the other way,
>from Outlinely to Dynalist. Why?
>
>Because Outlinely is a subscription app, and I’m now trying to remove as
>many subscriptions as possible from my rather lengthy list.
>
Fair enough, but note that Outlinely offers a “Lifetime Pro” subscription for $31.99, which, while technically still a subscription, makes it effectively rather similar to a straightforward purchase.
Posted by Adrian
Mar 4, 2019 at 07:01 PM
The Visual Outliner was designed as a minimalist blank canvas for brainstorming and thought organization. You write on it like you would if using Notepad, with the advantage that you can generate structured outlines. It also allows you to create visual containers through color and styling to emphasize the outline hierarchy.
The goal is to focus on your writing content, without the distraction of multiple columns, bells, whistles, flags, dates, emojis and other kind of visual noise. All buttons are light grey, so that they won’t bother you visually. You’ll find the Bucket very useful if you really spend some time using it.
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
I just gave Visual Outliner a quick look. I’m always excited to try a
>new outliner, but my first impressions are not favorable. Some apps when
>you try them make you want to keep on going. VO made me want to flee. It
>feels pretty rudimentary for the most part, other than a few sort of
>flourishes, like The Bucket, which is a temporary place to store ideas.
>In practice, The Bucket seems pretty useless.
>
>You can add start and due dates to items in your outline, but that
>information goes in the “Tracking” tab of the “Properties” window, and
>doesn’t appear IN your outline at all. So you basically have to wallow
>around among your listings to find out what is due and when. More
>uselessness.
>
>All of the buttons are grayed out, which usually indicates (at least in
>my experience) that they are unavailable at the time. Not so with Visual
>Outliner (which is kind of ironic).
>
>And it costs $60!
>
>Steve Z.
>
>Luhmann wrote:
>Since this group is called Outliner Software, worth noting that the Goal
>>Enforcer developers have a new (windows-only) outlining app:
>>
>>https://www.visualoutliner.com/
>>
>>I don’t use windows, but I thought it worth a mention.
Posted by Adrian
Mar 4, 2019 at 07:19 PM
Too fast and furious to a conclusion, slow down, slow down…
THERE ARE free Android and iOS counterparts, as well as free Cloud sync service.
Paul Korm wrote:
Safari doesn’t like the linked site and throws off security warnings
>over here.
>
>GoalEnforcer is actually over here.
>
>https://www.goalenforcer.com
>
>And, yes, I’ve tested it. Rather ugly; broken menus on macOS; not very
>functional; no sync; no iOS counterpart.
>
>Adrian wrote:
>“action lists that have lots of subtasks, notes, as well as
>>partially-formed concepts and plans”
>>Have you tried GoalEnforcer? You can get the Starter Edition for free
>>at:
>>
>>https://sharewareonsale.com/s/free-goalenforcer-100-discount
Posted by Paul Korm
Mar 4, 2019 at 10:32 PM
No, not really too fast. I’ve had it GoalEnforcer installed here for 6 months or so and periodically turn it on to see it is useful for various tasks I’m working on. I’ve never found it to be so. So, I gave it an honest chance over a rather long horizon. Sorry.
Adrian wrote:
>Too fast and furious to a conclusion, slow down, slow down…