Trilium Notes - new note taking app
Started by zadam
on 9/3/2018
zadam
9/3/2018 8:08 pm
Hello, I'd like to introduce my new app for note taking - it's called Trilium Notes and it's hosted at GitHub: https://github.com/zadam/trilium
To quickly get some idea of what it can do you can look at some screenshots: https://github.com/zadam/trilium/wiki/Screenshot-tour
And list of features: https://github.com/zadam/trilium#features
Original inspiration for this app was Notecase Pro from with which it shares its basic idea of hierarchical structure of notes, but then it grew quite far apart.
It's open source and free of charge. So far it's available for Windows and Linux, support for Mac will come later (once I figure out how to build & test legally without having Mac).
Since it's not heavily tested I can't recommend it yet for "production" use, but it should be good enough for evaluation and experimentation.
To quickly get some idea of what it can do you can look at some screenshots: https://github.com/zadam/trilium/wiki/Screenshot-tour
And list of features: https://github.com/zadam/trilium#features
Original inspiration for this app was Notecase Pro from with which it shares its basic idea of hierarchical structure of notes, but then it grew quite far apart.
It's open source and free of charge. So far it's available for Windows and Linux, support for Mac will come later (once I figure out how to build & test legally without having Mac).
Since it's not heavily tested I can't recommend it yet for "production" use, but it should be good enough for evaluation and experimentation.
MadaboutDana
9/4/2018 4:10 pm
Looks pretty cool - I'll be happy to play with the Mac version!
thouqht
9/4/2018 10:30 pm
This looks really cool! It's kind of like the marriage of evernote, onenote, and markdown that I've always dreamed of. Two questions:
- Can you put your notes in a custom order within each folder or are they autosorted by title?
- Is there plans for mobile access at any point?
- Can you put your notes in a custom order within each folder or are they autosorted by title?
- Is there plans for mobile access at any point?
zadam
9/5/2018 6:40 am
@thought: yes, you can arrange the notes in your desired order (either drag & drop or by CTRL-UP/CTRL-DOWN). Together with CTRL-LEFT and CTRL-RIGHT for demoting/promoting note in the hierarchy it makes it quite pleasant to arrange notes with just keyboard. Autosorting by title is available, but needs to be enabled by @sorted attribute.
I'm not planning to do native mobile app(s) at this point. Instead I plan to create mobile UI frontend for the "server edition" so you can access it from your browser on the phone (you'd have to be online).
I'm not planning to do native mobile app(s) at this point. Instead I plan to create mobile UI frontend for the "server edition" so you can access it from your browser on the phone (you'd have to be online).
zadam
1/6/2019 4:43 pm
MadaboutDana wrote:
Looks pretty cool - I'll be happy to play with the Mac version!
Mac version is now available: https://github.com/zadam/trilium/releases
Any testing would be welcome.
There has been some new features as well - one of the more interesting are probably "relation maps": https://github.com/zadam/trilium/wiki/Relation-map
Paul Korm
1/6/2019 5:48 pm
No doubt this is a wonderful app -- one of the best. However after futzing around for 15 minutes trying to figure out how to unzip a .7z archive, and realizing I would probably have to buy software to do it, I resolved to give your app a pass. If you post a proper DMG eventually, could you let us know?
zadam wrote:
zadam wrote:
MadaboutDana wrote:
Looks pretty cool - I'll be happy to play with the Mac version!
Mac version is now available: https://github.com/zadam/trilium/releases
Any testing would be welcome.
There has been some new features as well - one of the more interesting
are probably "relation maps":
https://github.com/zadam/trilium/wiki/Relation-map
Franz Grieser
1/6/2019 5:57 pm
Paul Korm wrote:
iZip should do the job. It's free.
https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/izip-unarchiver-rar-7z-zip-decompressor/id717545828?mt=12
No doubt this is a wonderful app -- one of the best. However after
futzing around for 15 minutes trying to figure out how to unzip a .7z
archive, and realizing I would probably have to buy software to do it, I
resolved to give your app a pass. If you post a proper DMG eventually,
could you let us know?
iZip should do the job. It's free.
https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/izip-unarchiver-rar-7z-zip-decompressor/id717545828?mt=12
Franz Grieser
1/6/2019 6:00 pm
Unarchiver should also work: https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/the-unarchiver/id425424353?mt=12
zadam
1/6/2019 6:15 pm
Paul Korm wrote:
I package the releases on a linux system and unfortunately it seems that it is not possible do build a DMG on non-mac system (at least for electron apps).
I used Keka to unpack the application for testing on Mac and it worked very nicely so I did not consider this to be a big issue.
No doubt this is a wonderful app -- one of the best. However after
futzing around for 15 minutes trying to figure out how to unzip a .7z
archive, and realizing I would probably have to buy software to do it, I
resolved to give your app a pass. If you post a proper DMG eventually,
could you let us know?
I package the releases on a linux system and unfortunately it seems that it is not possible do build a DMG on non-mac system (at least for electron apps).
I used Keka to unpack the application for testing on Mac and it worked very nicely so I did not consider this to be a big issue.
MadaboutDana
1/6/2019 6:48 pm
Thanks for the new Mac version - I'm just taking a look now...
Cheers,
Bill
Cheers,
Bill
jaslar
1/7/2019 11:28 pm
I'm a big fan of Notecase, and have been trying to figure out how to use something like it on my Chromebook. Step one: download to Mac and set up as desktop server. It worked ok (I had the right shareware program to unzip), but I can't get Func/Ctrl/Option/Command plus arrow keys to rearrange anything. And there are no right click or menu suggestions. Am I missing something? (Step 2, download server version, I guess. But I do want to make sure it works for me first.)
satis
1/8/2019 6:09 pm
jaslar wrote:
I'm a big fan of Notecase, and have been trying to figure out how to use
something like it on my Chromebook.
Do you have a Chromebook that can run Android apps? NoteCase Pro for Android v1.1.8 has just been released.
http://www.notecasepro.com/get.php?android/Notecase_Pro_1.1.8.apk
jaslar
1/9/2019 2:19 am
I thought I bought that, but no. Mostly, I've found alternatives that work well with a Chromebook. But I haven't found a cloud based two pane alternative to Notecase. If I can set up Trilium as a server on an unused PC, this might work. I just thought I'd see if I liked the feel of it first. It doesn't quite work like Notecase, but I haven't spent much time with it yet.
satis wrote:
satis wrote:
jaslar wrote:
> I'm a big fan of Notecase, and have been trying to figure out how to
use
>something like it on my Chromebook.
Do you have a Chromebook that can run Android apps? NoteCase Pro for
Android v1.1.8 has just been released.
http://www.notecasepro.com/get.php?android/Notecase_Pro_1.1.8.apk
washere
1/9/2019 2:44 am
Zadam's Trilium will be a superb server-based desktop app one day. He's been putting a lot of work into it and a lot more to come.
On Chromebooks (specially) and Android phones/tablets Halna Outliner Pro (cheap, also has free ad based version) is probably the best android app. But Notecase Pro Android (also cheap plus free limited version) is catching up, which also can attach images etc. even if not as nippy yet.
Both work well on Chromebooks, Halna better on phones but Notecase Pro has the advantage of it's Desktop siblings and server too. You really need both.
On Chromebooks (specially) and Android phones/tablets Halna Outliner Pro (cheap, also has free ad based version) is probably the best android app. But Notecase Pro Android (also cheap plus free limited version) is catching up, which also can attach images etc. even if not as nippy yet.
Both work well on Chromebooks, Halna better on phones but Notecase Pro has the advantage of it's Desktop siblings and server too. You really need both.
Carrot
8/4/2020 4:14 am
I've searched for good open source note taking solutions for years and so I was shocked when my friend introduced me to Trilium. I'd never heard of it.
I've been using it on and off for several months and am deeply impressed. I have large collections of research materials in MyInfo 6 (now migrated to MyInfo 7), an application widely seen as one of the very best of this genre.
I've always hoped to find an open source solution that could replace my reliance on proprietary note software.
For a few years I tried Keepnote for a few years, and had plenty of correspondence with the developer. Sadly, it was discontinued. Then I moved to CherryTree, but its development was slow and did not offer the interface I needed. I then found Joplin and though I liked its web-clilpping tool I found its UI be its biggest downfall--- it appears to be inspired by OneNote and/or Evernote and those interfaces do not fit my needs. For my way of working, the UI is awkward to use, takes up far too much screen space, and overall is poorly designed. Though I sent my recommendations to the Joplin forum, indeed they were busy with many other aspects of development.
But when I found Trilum, I was very impressed, especially by the clean classic user interface. It follows the design used by so many of the best note-taking applications: UltraRecall, Right Notes, MyBase, MyInfo.
Trilium needs an import tool so users can import collections from Joplin, Evernote, easier mass import of ODT or DOCX documents. Please continue to develop its WYSIWYG interface. I find interfaces that use Markup to be very slow- its like taking a step backwards to 1997 when I used WordPerfect's reveal codes to see how everything was formatted. I don't want to do that anymore.
I hope you can find a team to develop Trlium to be what Joplin does not quite yet achieve.
I've been using it on and off for several months and am deeply impressed. I have large collections of research materials in MyInfo 6 (now migrated to MyInfo 7), an application widely seen as one of the very best of this genre.
I've always hoped to find an open source solution that could replace my reliance on proprietary note software.
For a few years I tried Keepnote for a few years, and had plenty of correspondence with the developer. Sadly, it was discontinued. Then I moved to CherryTree, but its development was slow and did not offer the interface I needed. I then found Joplin and though I liked its web-clilpping tool I found its UI be its biggest downfall--- it appears to be inspired by OneNote and/or Evernote and those interfaces do not fit my needs. For my way of working, the UI is awkward to use, takes up far too much screen space, and overall is poorly designed. Though I sent my recommendations to the Joplin forum, indeed they were busy with many other aspects of development.
But when I found Trilum, I was very impressed, especially by the clean classic user interface. It follows the design used by so many of the best note-taking applications: UltraRecall, Right Notes, MyBase, MyInfo.
Trilium needs an import tool so users can import collections from Joplin, Evernote, easier mass import of ODT or DOCX documents. Please continue to develop its WYSIWYG interface. I find interfaces that use Markup to be very slow- its like taking a step backwards to 1997 when I used WordPerfect's reveal codes to see how everything was formatted. I don't want to do that anymore.
I hope you can find a team to develop Trlium to be what Joplin does not quite yet achieve.
