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Which "favorite" outliner app would you give up if something better came along
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Posted by JakeBernsteinWA
Jul 8, 2018 at 05:54 PM
So I decided to go with Outlinely because I simply cannot stand the non-nativeness of Dynalist. Plus, Outlinely got updated recently and it already works fine for me. I will be using Outlinely and OO on a regular basis because for me, they serve different purposes. I use OO with columns quite a bit in my daily work (it’s my time sheet, for one) but it’s different from Outlinely because it’s not really a “note taking app” due to its use of discrete files rather than a quick-searchable database like Outlinely or Dynalist.
I use Tinderbox a fair amount, but usually for specific “thinking exercises” or organizing a lot of information about one topic (I have a “Security & Privacy.tbx” file that holds everything I know about GDPR, for example).
I’m curious to see if Outlinely can replace the many, many note taking apps I have but am never satisfied with (i.e. Bear and its ilk).
Posted by JakeBernsteinWA
Jul 8, 2018 at 06:26 PM
Replying to myself…I regret not looking closer at Dynalist. I just wish it had a better iOS experience.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jul 8, 2018 at 06:58 PM
This is, of course, very subjective. I just don’t find it as handy for building outlines and plans. Just as an example, you have to type three keys to zoom in on a topic: command, shift and F, which require you to be pretty dextrous with your left hand, or be good at using the command and shift keys with your right hand, while pressing the F with your left. Dynalist by contrast just requires the command key and the close bracket key, or simply click on the bullet.
Also, Essentials might feel more nimble, since a lot of the fancy stuff is stripped away.
satis wrote:
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>Stephen Zeoli wrote:
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>>OmniOutliner is powerful, but it feels more like a place to make good
>>looking outlines, rather than real working ones.
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>That’s curious to me. I’ve been making working text outlines on my Mac
>since 1986, starting with Acta (now a free download from a-sharp.com for
>pre macOS 10.4 machines) and I worked with it the same way I do today
>with OmniOutliner Essentials. Indeed, I’ve imported from OPML and edited
>2-decade-old, thousand-item outlines without any problems. Since I
>almost never print them or make pdfs the only good looks that have
>mattered to me have been the UI and how the outlines look in terms of
>font/size and page background while in use.
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>For you what features would make OO a good place to make working
>outlines?
Posted by satis
Jul 8, 2018 at 08:30 PM
Is this OmniOutliner you’re talking about, or OmniFocus? I know that Shift-Command-F is for ‘Focusing’ in OF
https://support.omnigroup.com/documentation/omnifocus/mac/2.8/en/focusing/
but I’ve never ‘zoomed’ in OO (Elements).
Posted by satis
Jul 8, 2018 at 08:32 PM
satis wrote:
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>but I’ve never ‘zoomed’ in OO (Elements).
Ah, nevermind. That’s because OO Elements doesn’t have that feature!
https://support.omnigroup.com/documentation/omnioutliner/mac/4.5.3/en/using-the-sidebar/