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Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 16, 2020 at 02:28 PM
Interesting. I’ve got a fair amount of info in Outlinely, and it’s been pretty rock-solid. But experience can vary (really quite a lot).
Has anybody taken a look at the intriguing new Craft (craft.do), a kind of embedded super-outliner/document manager? It’s not cheap, but it is pretty cool.
Cheers,
Bill
Posted by satis
Dec 6, 2020 at 02:26 AM
UK-based writer/director Julian Simpson wrote about it in a recent personal newsletter:
“And so to Craft. Oh my God, Craft. Michael Marshall Smith recommended it to me a week or so ago, and I tried it out in an idle moment, which turned into an intensive several hours of transferring literally all the notes on my computer into it. Obsidian, Notion, Zettlr, Bear, Roam Research, Drafts and Ulysses have all been mothballed in favour of Craft. I’m so enthusiastic about it, I actually find it hard to articulate just why it is so good. Yes, there are backlinks, yes it works across all devices seamlessly, yes it allows for collaboration (SO easily!), yes it’s minimalist, yes the design is almost flawless… And there are pages within pages, and the ability to seamless include images and sketches, and the phone app scans documents, and the export is as fast and amazing as the import… I love everything about this app, and one of the things I love the most is the sparsity of instructions; when you download, they pretty much just give you a few pointers and tell you to go play. And that process of discovery is really rewarding as you go “I wonder if…” and a moment later, you’ve discovered that feature you always wish you had. I mean, I understand that this is just a notes app. It’s not a time machine or a Covid vaccine, but it has made this writer very happy. You can be happy to at Craft.do”
Posted by Simon
Dec 6, 2020 at 12:58 PM
Although I really like Craft, a few things stop me from using it:
1. £45 per year
2. Accessibility is very limited. You cannot change the font size in app. You can per block, but you cannot change the default size of all docs. For some reason developers think smaller is better.
3. OS support. Only Catalina+ is supported and even then only for a possible 6-12 months. This also seems a current trend, forcing users to upgrade to continue using their app. Catalina has been the worst upgrade in my mac experience, on par with Microsoft ME. Big Sur will not see my machine for at least another 12 months.
satis wrote:
UK-based writer/director Julian Simpson wrote about it in a recent
>personal newsletter:
>
>“And so to Craft. Oh my God, Craft. Michael Marshall Smith recommended
>it to me a week or so ago, and I tried it out in an idle moment, which
>turned into an intensive several hours of transferring literally all the
>notes on my computer into it. Obsidian, Notion, Zettlr, Bear, Roam
>Research, Drafts and Ulysses have all been mothballed in favour of
>Craft. I’m so enthusiastic about it, I actually find it hard to
>articulate just why it is so good. Yes, there are backlinks, yes it
>works across all devices seamlessly, yes it allows for collaboration (SO
>easily!), yes it’s minimalist, yes the design is almost
>flawless… And there are pages within pages, and the ability to
>seamless include images and sketches, and the phone app scans documents,
>and the export is as fast and amazing as the import… I love everything
>about this app, and one of the things I love the most is the sparsity of
>instructions; when you download, they pretty much just give you a few
>pointers and tell you to go play. And that process of discovery is
>really rewarding as you go “I wonder if…” and a moment
>later, you’ve discovered that feature you always wish you had. I
>mean, I understand that this is just a notes app. It’s not a time
>machine or a Covid vaccine, but it has made this writer very happy. You
>can be happy to at Craft.do”
Posted by MadaboutDana
Dec 7, 2020 at 03:02 PM
I tend to agree with you, Simon. I had a bit of a play with Craft, and while I loved some of the ideas, found that some of them come across as gimmicky rather than value-adding.
But it’s a lovely piece of software, which does cause the CRIMPing instinct to leap to the fore! The embedding/nesting concept is especially well done.
Posted by satis
Dec 8, 2020 at 07:18 PM
The latest episode of AppStories details the switch to Craft from Notion by the two hosts of the show.
https://appstories.net/episodes/197/
It was particularly difficult for them to pull data out of Notion, and they disliked the iOS app. Given that one of the hosts works primarily on iPads, that skews their review a bit for me, but they’re pretty taken with it, and discuss that the app improved considerably from its original beta at WWDC.