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Posted by avernet
Nov 14, 2020 at 04:27 AM
Luhmann wrote:
>Neither OmniOutliner nor Tinderbox are particularly similar to the raft
>of outliners inspired by Workflowy, of which Outlinely is one. While
>they might be nice for some users, my point remains, if you want an
>actively developed Workflowy-like outliner that works on MacOS and iOS
>with good sync, you are stuck with electron apps.
It is indeed unfortunate. I suspect this is due to the market not being large enough to sustain even a small team doing an iOS+macOS only outliner. As evidence, I’d take that even the multi-platform options (WorkFlowy, Dynalist) only seem to be able to support very small teams, and it looks as if OmniGroup determined that their energy was better spent on OmniFocus, OmniGraffle, and OmniPlan rather than OmniOutliner.
Of course, a great app can make a small market grow. But this seems like a risky bet.
-Alex
Posted by Luhmann
Nov 14, 2020 at 06:29 AM
Maybe, but I also think that Apple deserves some of the blame. The 30% cut, the lack of discoverability in the App store, the drive towards cheap apps, as well as other problems developers complain about seem to have hurt apps like this which used to survive in the old days of Apple shareware. Remember MORE?
Posted by jaslar
Nov 14, 2020 at 05:02 PM
I hauled out my old 2011 MacBook Pro (it works with Webinex when Chromebook and Linux don’t), and saw the Outlinely update. So I installed, and put it through its paces again. It’s quite a nice outliner, very much a Workflowy/Dynalist for the desktop, modern and local.
Posted by Luhmann
Nov 15, 2020 at 09:33 AM
Except it’s buggy as hell and some features were never properly implemented. I don’t have a list anymore (I once sent a long list to the developer), but there is a reason I stopped using it. Yes, it seems great at first - which is why I paid for a lifetime account, but I soon regretted it and eventually stopped using it altogether. I wouldn’t be bothered about the lack of development if it really was the polished app it seems at first…
Posted by steve-rogers
Nov 15, 2020 at 03:14 PM
Luhmann wrote:
Except it’s buggy as hell and some features were never properly
>implemented. I don’t have a list anymore (I once sent a long list to the
>developer), but there is a reason I stopped using it. Yes, it seems
>great at first - which is why I paid for a lifetime account, but I soon
>regretted it and eventually stopped using it altogether. I wouldn’t be
>bothered about the lack of development if it really was the polished app
>it seems at first…
Same experience here. I thought Outlinely was awesome (and subscribed for a year) until I moved my active projects into it and started to really work with it. Within a day or two I came to the realization that the software is actually very buggy and crashed more frequently than I was comfortable with. I would never trust Outlinely with important data or an important writing project.