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Posted by satis
Apr 29, 2018 at 12:53 PM
Dellu wrote:
> Shall I write them as lists, or as outlines, or mind-maps? which one
> is the best for the task? which works best with other application?
> I often keep on asking these question still freezing in front of the
> big panel.
I’ve followed Curio since it came out in 2004 (and watched with curiosity as it focused on edu sales). If I lived completely in my Mac today I’d take a closer look at its features but I do so much on the run that I really need a product/service which offered access and editing on iOS.
But more generally, for me any list can live inside an outline, so my choice is usually between an outliner (OmniOutliner, Cloud Outliner Pro) and a mindmap (Mindnode Mac/iOS usually, though I own iThoughts/Mac too), sometime with light free-tier kanban use.
Unfortunately, I’m just not satisfied with the Mac/iOS outliners I’ve used, and don’t want to pay monthly/yearly for a Workflowy/Dynalist/Checkvist solution, though I might ultimately end up going this route in the end because these services look useful and powerful and they offer OPML import/export.
I’m intrigued by Zenkit’s approach of being able to instantly switch list/checklist views into kanban into mindmap into table views (but not into an outline), with notifications, and with integration with Google Calendar as well as access to Zapier connectivity. If they offered a real outliner (and OPML to import/export) it would be a killer option for me.
Posted by Dellu
Apr 30, 2018 at 08:15 AM
Skywatcher wrote:
>Being afflicted with the CRIMP malady myself, I tried to cure it by
>forcing myself to choose between Tinderbox or Curio, but not both. In
>the end I ended up keeping them both. While Tinderbox is superior in
>filtering, organizing, analyzing etc.. it is very much oriented towards
>written notes and doesn’t handle images too well, unlike Curio which is
>very much multimedia oriented. When some of my brainstorms need to
>incorporate images, web archives, pdfs, soundbites,.. I usually turn to
>Curio first. Sure, it doesn’t have the ( sometimes exhaustingly )
>complex organizing features of Tinderbox, but it is the right tool for
>me when a project/brainstorm doesn’t fit too strictly into a
>straightforward map or outline format, but needs a bit of everything.
>Another thing , once I have layed down a somewhat complex map in
>Tinderbox, zooming in or out on it is often problematic, as it doesn’t
>keep everything in proportion but tends to reformat both the spaces
>between notes and the visible portions of text in the notes themselves
>according to some mysterious rules that escape me. . Curio on the other
>hand just zooms in/out in a very straightforward manner, like you would
>do on a PDF or a web-browser.
>
>PS: sorry about my strange grammar, english isn’t my first language (
>not even my second actually )
This is interesting. My work also involves PDF files most of the time. But, I never bring them to Tinderbox (except linking them in some cases). I always read my PDF files in Skim or PDFexpert. I sometimes export the summaries and annotations. But, often times, I keep a Tinderbox window on the half of my screen to write notes while reading the PDF with PDFexpert.
- I honestly didn’t know that conversion between maps and outlines in Curio was possible.
One major problem with Tinderbox is that it’s XML package is not suitable to search with Spotlight. I have to constantly export my notes to Finder to be able to search them with Spotlight.
is Curio’s package searchable with Spotlight?
Posted by Dellu
Apr 30, 2018 at 08:17 AM
Skywatcher wrote:
>PS: sorry about my strange grammar, english isn’t my first language (
>not even my second actually )
Your English is excellent.
Posted by Paul Korm
Apr 30, 2018 at 10:25 AM
Spotlight does not search within packages. It’s a Spotlight limitation, not Curio’s. DEVONthink gets around this by (optionally) creating a metadata file for each document in a database package and storing that file in a cache that Spotlight searches. Curio does not use that procedure.
Dellu wrote:
>is Curio’s package searchable with Spotlight?
Posted by NickG
Apr 30, 2018 at 12:03 PM
In fact, from version 11.1, you can choose to store Curio assets alongside the project file (rather than within the package) to make them searchable from Spotlight. There is some useful discussion about trade-offs over in the Zengobi forums.
Paul Korm wrote:
Spotlight does not search within packages. It’s a Spotlight limitation,
>not Curio’s. DEVONthink gets around this by (optionally) creating a
>metadata file for each document in a database package and storing that
>file in a cache that Spotlight searches. Curio does not use that
>procedure.
>
>Dellu wrote:
>
>>is Curio’s package searchable with Spotlight?