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Posted by Chris Thompson
Apr 27, 2018 at 01:19 PM
Does anyone know if they’re going to discontinue the ability to use Sharepoint as a back end? I can understand discontinuing support for OneNote notebooks on network shares (which worked, but not well with large teams), but moving 100% to the Microsoft Cloud is going to make some corporate scenarios untenable for a variety of reasons.
As a related point, does anyone know a decent Windows-hosted alternative to DevonThink? There’s the DevonThink Pro web interface, so it is usable from Windows, but I find it strange that there is almost nothing to turn to in this specific area.
—Chris
Posted by Ken
Apr 27, 2018 at 04:34 PM
$Bill wrote:
>
>The announcement was about discontinuing Onenote 2016 in favor of
>Onenote for Windows 10- not the web-based version.
>The feature set of Onenote for Windows 10 exceeds that of Onenote 2016
>in many ways and the pace of development has been brisk.
>https://support.office.com/en-us/article/what-s-the-difference-between-onenote-and-onenote-2016-a624e692-b78b-4c09-b07f-46181958118f
>
As others have alluded to, the devil is in the details. I work in a Win7 environment so the Win10 version is not available to me. And, while the Win10 version may have some new features, it is missing some key features found in the 2016 version that some people find useful (or essential), so exceeding in many ways is a bit of a leading statement IMHO, as Microsoft is putting value on what they think is important, not necessarily what I think is important. It is not that the product has no value, its just that they are taking away features, and that can be an issue for many of us.
—Ken
Posted by Dellu
Apr 27, 2018 at 10:59 PM
>“Store notebooks on your local hard drive instead of in the cloud
What is the point of storing these Onenote files in the local drive in the first place?
- These notes cannot be opened or searched with another application. They cannot be opened with other applications. They have always been Onenote databases. If you have onenote installed, you don’t need them; if you don’t have onenote installed they have always been useless.
- the current Onenote also caches similarly. You can use the application forever without ever being connected to the Internet. The MS cloud is not required. you use it only if you want to access your files across across many devises.
Unless I am missing sth, some of the complains in here don’t make much sense.
I am one of the people who hates corporate greed and not so much fond of the Cloud. But, the points raised in here against the new version of Onenote are, I think, based on misunderstandings.
Posted by NickG
Apr 28, 2018 at 07:04 AM
Dellu wrote:
>“Store notebooks on your local hard drive instead of in the cloud
>
>What is the point of storing these Onenote files in the local drive in
>the first place?
>
>- These notes cannot be opened or searched with another application.
>They cannot be opened with other applications. They have always been
>Onenote databases. If you have onenote installed, you don’t need them;
>if you don’t have onenote installed they have always been useless.
>
>
>- the current Onenote also caches similarly. You can use the application
>forever without ever being connected to the Internet. The MS cloud is
>not required. you use it only if you want to access your files across
>across many devises.
>
>
>Unless I am missing sth, some of the complains in here don’t make much
>sense.
>
>I am one of the people who hates corporate greed and not so much fond of
>the Cloud. But, the points raised in here against the new version of
>Onenote are, I think, based on misunderstandings.
>
The point of storing OneNote files locally is, as I said earlier in the thread, to be able to work when there’s no internet connection, or a very poor one. There may be other uses cases too, but that one is, for me, the deal-breaker.
If you *never* have to work without internet access, it’s not a problem. I f you *never* run into data limits, it’s not a problem.
It’s not a “complaint” - it’s a reason why a cloud-only app is not suitable for some people. Including me.
Posted by Jan S.
Apr 28, 2018 at 07:10 AM
Dellu wrote:
>What is the point of storing these Onenote files in the local drive in
>the first place?
> ...
>Unless I am missing sth, some of the complains in here don’t make much
>sense.
> ...
>But, the points raised in here against the new version of
>Onenote are, I think, based on misunderstandings.
>
Most people don’t want Microsoft to read their notes, for either (1) privacy reasons and/or (2) legal reasons (business use). Which is something that they will do, just like Google reads your GMail and Facebook reads your private messages. But that is just the price to pay for installing malware on your system.