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Posted by washere
Dec 9, 2018 at 05:39 PM
I always felt it was a shame he could not keep it up, whiz has good tag/keyword functions he could develop much more. Hope he can pick it up again, nice guy.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Dec 10, 2018 at 10:06 AM
Dang, that does look interesting! Do you happen to have a Mac executable?
Thanks ever so,
Bill
Rochus wrote:
>Hi there, thanks for the link and the very interesting discussion I came
>accross today. My response might be a bit biased since I implemented my
>own outliner and use it as my main information management tool since.
>Before I used Ecco Pro (since its 16bit days), but needed something more
>powerful including cross-references and platform independence for the
>information management of large projects. You can find the tool on
>https://github.com/rochus-keller/CrossLine. It supports the “killer
>feature” from the referenced post at organizingcreativity.com and a
>couple of other features requested there. I actually followed the
>authors suggestion and imported “War and Peace” from the Gutenberg HTML
>edition into a repository; runs really smooth and keeps all title
>structure and formatting; you can download it from
>http://software.rochus-keller.info/WarAndPeace.cldb.zip or try to import
>yourself. I used the tool in really large government projects; one of my
>repositories includes every note and protocol and even some studies and
>specifications of an eight year project; everything is cross-linked and
>also accessible by full text search. I actually don’t need columns
>because the tool supports active links with transclusion; so you cann
>e.g. create an outline with all references and include the navigatable
>abbreviations in the main text; the same applies to action items in a
>protocol which you can collect in another outline or section an track
>their status by repositioning and adding subitems. I will also look
>through the suggestions in this discussion and add posts if need be.
>
>Best R.K.
Posted by Jon Polish
Dec 10, 2018 at 01:42 PM
I agree. WhizFolders is quite good. I have corresponded with Sanjay recently about an outlining issue. As always, he was responsive and will look into a fix.
Jon
Amontillado wrote:
>
>Donovan wrote:
>I saw a couple of mentions of WhizFolders and took a look at it for the
>>first time in many years. It’s made a lot of progress, but it all
>seemed
>>to happen a while back. Is WhizNotes actively still in development?
>>(Another pet peeve of mine: release notes/change logs that are not
>>dated. Hate it.)
>
>Anything undated on the ‘net with relevance to contemporaneous context
>is evil. No argument there from me.
>
>Writers Blocks was my first discovery in my path to enlightenment,
>followed by delight when I found WhizFolders.
>
>The Pro version has significant advantage over the cheap (free,
>perhaps?) version, and I think the lesser version actually hurt his
>sales. The introductory level of WhizFolders is great, but my
>recollection from the time is that nobody else got my enthusiasm for the
>Pro version after they had seen the limited version.
>
>I’m sure I’d still be using WhizFolders, primarily for outlining, but
>for two things. The developer took an extended break to pursue other
>projects, and I have moved on from Windows.
>
>I can’t remember the developer’s name off hand, but he was responsive
>and friendly. He listened to suggestions and implemented one of mine.
>
>If it’s back in active development, I think I’ll buy a fresh license so
>I can use it on my work computer, which is, sadly, Windows-based.
>
>In fact, if WhizFolders is back in active development, I might just buy
>a license to encourage him, in case I find myself in a Windows
>environment, and as a salute to good times gone by.
>
>For full disclosure, I rarely met anyone with my enthusiasm for the
>product. In my personal experience, it worked great.
Posted by Amontillado
Dec 10, 2018 at 02:59 PM
washere wrote:
I always felt it was a shame he could not keep it up, whiz has good
>tag/keyword functions he could develop much more. Hope he can pick it up
>again, nice guy.
Herein is an argument for subscription pricing, I guess. Revenue solves a lot of problems.
On the other hand, I see OmniFocus is rolling out their new web interface with a ten dollar monthly subscription fee - https://www.omnigroup.com/blog. If I lose the option to just license OmniFocus outright, I’ll use something else.
If I read the blog post correctly, I believe the subscription pricing is an option to the normal pricing. Fortune favors the prepared, though.
All low cost software is becoming a candidate for subscription pricing. Always keep alternatives in mind, and avoid becoming addicted to anything.
I dropped Ulysses when they started their subscription plan. I came back, but only because Ulysses syncs perfectly between MacOS and IOS. The only reason that matters is my iPad is better in a (parked) vehicle than my Macbook. If I decide not to write on my iPad, I don’t really need Ulysses.
Or maybe I should just revert to my native habitat, Linux.
Posted by Rochus
Jan 13, 2019 at 07:11 PM
>Dang, that does look interesting! Do you happen to have a Mac executable?
>
>Thanks ever so,
>Bill
I saw your question just now.
The easies way to run it on Mac is probably by installing Wine (https://www.winehq.org/) and using the Windows executable; I didn’t test this with CrossLine yet, but it worked with other software of mine.
Technically it should also be possible to directly compile CrossLine for Mac, but that would cause some work.
Best
R.K.