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Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Apr 11, 2018 at 02:07 PM
Jon Polish wrote:
> On Windows, I find InfoQube to meet virtually all of my requirements. It goes way beyond Ecco Pro’s capabilities and is very reliable with data.
Thanks for mentioning InfoQube Jon ! I do my best to provide the best information management tool, outliner-like or not (because outliners are not always the Holy Grail)
I’m sure you’ll like v108 even more, as it includes 24 new features and 20+ bug fixes:
http://www.sqlnotes.net/drupal5/index.php?q=node/4145
Pierre
IQ Designer
Posted by Chris Thompson
Apr 11, 2018 at 03:19 PM
My current top tools are:
Notion.so, v2: This is a web and desktop app with a novel flexible data model. Notes can be children of other notes (standard stuff), but also simulateously exist across a variety of metadata-supported views (calendars, kanban boards, database tables, etc.). Like Ecco, you can create subitems from any view, so you can for example create subnotes directly on a calendar item. The user interface is very good, it’s got a lot of buzz, and the company has venture capital backing, so I’m hoping it stays around for a while.
Tinderbox: Unfortunately Mac only and can sometimes feel like a research project, but there aren’t any other really good tools for using spatial views to make help sense of a large jumble of notes with arbitrary metadata. Really only necessary for complicated projects, but invaluable if you need it.
Scrivener 3: Solid writing tool, versatile, quite impressive in the latest version.
I’m not using Emacs Org-mode as much any more, but it deserves an honorable mention because it’s able to do an enormous amount of things if you’re willing to put in the time. Tiddlywiki is the same way. It *can* do everything ConnectedText used to do, but using it beyond a basic level requires getting involved in the community because everything is custom (batteries are not included) and resources are spread everywhere. It’s actually more of a rabbit hole than Org-mode, which does come with some batteries included.
Posted by Marbux
Apr 11, 2018 at 03:34 PM
Bernhard wrote:
>Notecase Pro is a very descent software. Unfortunately, even the last
>version for macOS (v4.3.4) is only 32-bit. So it wil not run anymore
>under future versions of macOS.
I’m informed by Miro that 64-bit macOS will be supported when the port of the program to GTK 3 is complete (now in progress; I’m running a GTK 3 development build on Linux).
Posted by Jon Polish
Apr 11, 2018 at 03:52 PM
Does this mean that formatting in notes (tables, bullets, numbered lists) will be improved or implemented?
Jon
Marbux wrote:
>
>Bernhard wrote:
>
>>Notecase Pro is a very descent software. Unfortunately, even the last
>>version for macOS (v4.3.4) is only 32-bit. So it wil not run anymore
>>under future versions of macOS.
>
>I’m informed by Miro that 64-bit macOS will be supported when the port
>of the program to GTK 3 is complete (now in progress; I’m running a GTK
>3 development build on Linux).
Posted by Jeffery Smith
Apr 12, 2018 at 07:06 PM
Whenever I refer to Stephen Stephen Zeoli’s Tinderbox tutorials, I’m immediately compelled to open Tinderbox and pour my life into it. Perhaps I should remove the competing programs from my Mac altogether. I remember doing that with Ecco Pro in my Windows days.
Jeffery
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
On the other hand, I still think the best outliner remains Tinderbox. I
>wrote about the reasons here:
>
>https://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/outlining-with-tinderbox-6-6-2-to-be-precise/
>
>And the app has only gotten more powerful in version 7. I don’t use it
>every day because it is only available for MacOS.
>
>Steve Z.