I don't know what to make of this (I haven't tried it yet), and I don't find it visually appealing, but it looks interesting:

https://www.thortspace.com/

A couple years ago, the developer seems to have explained the concept of the program year:

https://medium.com/thortspace/thortspace-mind-map-or-concept-map-or-something-else-entirely-9cc3248d0fd4

Cool concept. Reminded me of planet hopping in Super Mario Galaxy >_< (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFoZeD7S4EU Humans seem to be well adept at working in 3d spaces, even purely in mind space (memory palaces and object rotation are a good examples). Glad someone has been exploring this.

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My super basic review:

Subjectively, I enjoyed playing with he program but it feels clumsy. Doesn't fit my mental models well. Would definitely need some time to get more out of it.

Objectively, the program runs well and straightforward to use. The UI feels outdated and could use an update.

There seems to be potential in the 3d outlining space, though I'm more interested in an outliner that handles the xyz plane more plainly with stacking.

What is a "thort"? Seems to be either a very rude term, or a "thought".

I appreciate the endorsement on the landing page: "From the moment I saw Thortspace on my screen, I sensed excitement."

Indeed. And then?

Seriously, it is an interesting concept and seems to work as advertised -- sort of . A bit more accessible from a big-picture perspective than flat mind-map trees or even TheBrain. I played with the Mac AppStore version, which is full of glitches, bad layout, ugly labels, etc. The app seems to get in its own way.

I think that sums it up best.

Paul Korm wrote:

app seems to get in its own way.

Are there any outline/org apps that do added value 3D (versus novelty, gimmicky 3d) well?

Kumu is similar with a very clean design.. Not really "3D" -- but you cannot do real 3D on a flat monitor anyway.

http://kumu.io

kjxymzy wrote:

Are there any outline/org apps that do added value 3D (versus novelty,
gimmicky 3d) well?

Paul Korm wrote:

What is a "thort"? Seems to be either a very rude term, or a
"thought".

Seems to be a British company, so they probably assumed that everybody would pronounce it with a British accent and a silent "r"...

kjxymzy wrote:

Are there any outline/org apps that do added value 3D (versus novelty,
gimmicky 3d) well?

Some years ago I was looking for something along these lines, but nothing really ticked the box in the end:

http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/3805/0/fast-3d-modelling

I toyed with the idea of adding a 3D view into Hyper Plan. But I decided that it would be flashy, rather than useful, so I abandoned the idea. It's a pity, because it would have been fun to program!

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Andy Brice
https://www.hyperplan.com

3D would be cool for Hyper Plan, as an extra mode to current 2D mode, not replacing it.

I'll pass on thort, don't go for subscriptions nor sending data to someone I don't know. At least with Amazon, Google, Dropbox, Apple or big names there is some level of peace of mind. Don't like the look either, neither videos/website nor the clunky product itself.

I sometimes use the InfoRapid paid version on Android, has a free version there too, and an old version on windows, no serious use yet, just some basic models I did in 2016:

http://www.buildyourmap.com/

https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=InfoRapid

InfoRapid looks interesting. But I would say it is really 2D (albeit with an isometric projection).

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Andy Brice
https://www.hyperplan.com

Agree. 3D doesn't seem worth diving into unless you have some clear cut use cases in mind where there is a significant valued added over 2D. Otherwise it is just a gimmick that gets in the way.


Andy Brice wrote:

I toyed with the idea of adding a 3D view into Hyper Plan. But I decided
that it would be flashy, rather than useful, so I abandoned the idea.
It's a pity, because it would have been fun to program!

--
Andy Brice
https://www.hyperplan.com

Thortspace App has a "local-only" mode that stores data on your local device / desktop and
does not require login or an internet connection to work...
currently it doesn't even require you to register an account.

washere wrote:

I'll pass on thort, don't go for subscriptions nor sending data to
someone I don't know. At least with Amazon, Google, Dropbox, Apple or
big names there is some level of peace of mind. Don't like the look
either, neither videos/website nor the clunky product itself.