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Posted by Paul Korm
Mar 8, 2018 at 09:04 PM
I also enjoy using the Pencil on iPad Pro. My current favorite application is PDFs of reports discussed at meetings, loaded into Notability for note taking during the meeting.
I don’t care much for handwriting-to-text. First, my handwriting is so sui-generis and full of shorthand and various symbols to make note taking go quickly, that I don’t care to change what I do just to satisfy someone’s algorithm. Second, if it’s text I want then I’ll type text. (Or, occasionally, use voice-to-text.)
Hugh wrote:
>I like handwriting with the Apple Pencil on the iPad Pro. That isn’t to
>say that I think handwriting-to-text technology is adequately
>satisfactory yet. It isn’t. But for the use of handwriting as a pure
>recording medium as handwriting, it’s pretty good.
Posted by Hugh
Mar 10, 2018 at 11:18 AM
Yes, for me the combination of the big iPad Pro and the Apple Pencil excels for proof-reading PDFs (the reason I forked out a small fortune for it). So much better than lugging around bundles of hardcopy.
Posted by Dr Andus
Apr 2, 2018 at 11:07 AM
Dr Andus wrote:
>It sounds like Samsung is at the forefront of this. I haven’t looked
>into how iPad Pro performs in this respect. One day I would like to be
>able to use handwriting on the same machine that I use for everything
>else. As for the Surface, my impression is that it’s a bit clunky (at
>least from people who had switched to Chromebooks instead).
According to David Hewson, the Lenovo Yoga 920 with a pen is now usable with MS Word (on Windows). It wasn’t entirely clear to me though whether these are handwritten notes or the pen makes changes digitally as if one was using a keyboard (crossing out a word deletes it):
https://davidhewson.com/2018/04/02/fine-tuning-the-last-revision-of-a-book/
Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Apr 2, 2018 at 02:32 PM
Dr Andus wrote:
> It wasn’t entirely clear to me though whether these are handwritten notes or the pen makes changes digitally as if one
>was using a keyboard (crossing out a word deletes it):
Word has had pen support for comments since v2002 and within the document since v2007:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U44Pum7e8mE
As for the Lenovo Yoga 920, it is a really nice device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66gxroX_vX0
I personally prefer the Surface Pro form factor. If is so flexible and can be used everywhere, even where a keyboard connected device is risky, such as in the kitchen or while eating. More compact too when standing up.
I own a clone, the Lenovo Miix 700. Tablet itself is half the weight of the Yoga 920 and totally fan-less.
For the best handwriting experience, you’ll want to try out the free app Write (from StylusLabs). It beats all others, hands down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWyxTKa2tZ0
Pierre
Posted by nathanb
Apr 2, 2018 at 05:09 PM
>Word has had pen support for comments since v2002 and within the
>document since v2007:
Pierre, this made me smile. You are a fellow Windows Ink nerd! Microsoft was kind of ahead of it’s time with it’s first Tablet PC attempts back in…2003 was it? And I suppose Apple was even earlier with the Newton. I’ve been closely following tablet pc concepts since the beginning and it’s frustrating that it’s not the tech, but the adoption of it, that has been holding things up. Microsoft has been in the ‘digital ink’ game for at least 15 years now. I’m currently using a Surface Book and it’s an absolutely amazing device that does full-powered laptop and digital pen-tablet equally well. So it’s frustrating to see the bulk of the ‘software for creatives’ being developed for Apple. I didn’t realize until recently that Macbooks STILL aren’t touchscreen, let alone pen-enabled?!
I’ve got the full-featured DESKTOP versions of autocad, excel, outlook, 12 browser tabs, pdf editing, file explorer, dropbox, onedrive, gdrive, and three OneNote instances open at the same time and can shift to mobile tablet mode capturing ink and photos without even closing the other stuff, let alone have to shift to an entirely different OS/device to run to a meeting or report on something in the field. With a 9 hour battery. on something as sleek and light as a MacBook. Yet we are on here discussing improvements to stylus use on a mobile OS device designed for capacitive touch. The sad truth is that I know that many use-cases of using a MacBook/idevice for a fusion of power and mobile computing are at least as smooth if not better than with Windows….even though Windows does all this natively vs the clunky Apple workarounds. The only reason for that is that the vast majority of humans who deeply care about most use cases for ‘personal knowledge management’ software are Apple people. You guys GET IT, why not bring your talents to the better platform or at least demand that Apple keep up?
Imagine the reverse. What if windows laptops right now weren’t touchscreen, pen enabled, or even touch-tablet convertible? Imagine if they were only clamshells with the only ‘interface improvement’ over the past 10 years being a customizable ‘touchbar’. Imagine if Apple’s flagship MacBook was fully touchscreen and you could detach that screen from the keyboard, ink with a really awesome digital pen, and could ‘go mobile’ without having to give up any of the power of desktop apps? Put an Apple logo on the Surface Book and that dream is a reality. Imagine the praises that would be sung of Apple, built BY creatives, FOR creatives! We’d all be making fun of how clunky and old-fashioned Microsoft was for not even having touchscreen laptops in 2018! How is Apple still getting credit for being interface pioneers? Come on!