Question on one pane vs. two pane outliners

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Posted by ndodge
Jul 16, 2008 at 02:57 PM

This is what I would like (in a Windows or web-based app):

1) A way to hierarchically organize a set of folders or other category items in one pane.
2) A content pane that also supports outlining in the main pane.
3) Optionally, a way to search all items to see a subset of the content that matches the search (tagging or something similar)

Ecco Pro is not cutting it for me for this.
http://www.todoist.com is close, but the task list is not easily editable enough (compared to a single-pane outliner).
OneNote is not smooth enough in it’s outlining for me to use all of the time.

Any other options ? I wasn’t sure if “two-pane” outliners meant that the main pane does not support outlining.

Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jul 16, 2008 at 03:14 PM

ndodge wrote:
>This is what I would like (in a Windows or web-based app):
> >1) A way to hierarchically
>organize a set of folders or other category items in one pane.
>2) A content pane that
>also supports outlining in the main pane.
>3) Optionally, a way to search all items to
>see a subset of the content that matches the search (tagging or something
>similar)
>

The only application I’m aware of that comes close to offering this functionality is Debrief Notes.

http://debriefnotes.com/features.htm

Debrief allows you to organize content in a hierarchy of folders. One of the types of content you can create is an “outline.” These outlines have the approximate functionality of TreePad Lite. They are not sophisticated, but they are genuine outlines. What’s more, you can create notes associated with individual nodes of the outline. These notes are separate documents stored in other folders.

Debrief is an odd application. It is full of features, which I THINK are very powerful. However, it is not the most intuitive program and I’ve had trouble getting my mind around it. I would definitely recommend taking a good look at it.

Steve Z.

Posted by ndodge
Jul 19, 2008 at 12:43 AM

Sorry, DeBrief is not for me.

So there are no outiners where you can do outlining in the main pane that have some hierarchical way to organize sections ?

So two or three pane outliners then only allow you to have paragraph content in the main pane ? That doesn’t seem very useful.

Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jul 19, 2008 at 02:09 AM

The other option you might try is ListPro:

http://www.iliumsoft.com

It is more of a list building application. You can create a hierarchy of folders to hold your various lists, and these lists can have internal hierarchy, so you can get something of the functionality you’re looking for.

Steve Z.

Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Jul 19, 2008 at 02:35 AM

ndodge wrote:
>Sorry, DeBrief is not for me.
> >So there are no outiners where you can do outlining in
>the main pane that have some hierarchical way to organize sections ?
> >So two or three
>pane outliners then only allow you to have paragraph content in the main pane ? That
>doesn’t seem very useful.

Have you tried SQLNotes? It has an outlining pane (with rich text). Each item in this pane can have a large rich text content, shown in a second pane. To print/export, simply select the sections you want and do an HTML Export.

If you need yet another outlining level, the properties pane can now show an outline of folders (you would use these as sections).

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