The app for scientific/academic researchers, Findings (sorry, that's a Mac/iOS app) has been updated to version 2.0. And it's very different from the previous one - much more of an actual outliner, with some very powerful features. I won't go into detail here, but take a look at for some juicy features (even for non-scientists/researchers): http://findingsapp.com

Cheers!
Bill

Thanks for this, Bill. It looks interesting. I already have an investment of time and cash in DevonThink Pro Office, and so am unlikely to change. But, on a casual overview, there appear to be aspects of Findings that DT could well study, as its developers prepare DT 3: for example, Findings' timers, and the cleanliness and modernity of its UI.

Findings 2 looks like a good CRIMP -- I like the Protocols idea.

@Hugh -- I agree on the DEVONthink look/feel aspect, but Findings and DEVONthink are apples and oranges aren't they? I don't see the comparison.

Another nice feature I've just discovered while successfully managing to distract myself from actual work: it includes powerful folding abilities. Headers and subheads automatically fold the following text sections. Very nice! Other apps could certainly learn from this.

I think it's a shame Findings has limited itself specifically to research contexts, however - the engine would be extremely useful for other activities, too. I have suggested this to the developer (quite a while ago), but he's clearly had plenty of success with his niche approach. Good for him!

Like Hugh, I love the timers!

Cheers,
Bill

I started down the same path, but in reality the limit is just terminology. Change the headings and names for several UI elements and nothing else and Findings is a fine general purpose notebook. (And who doesn't need one-click access the the periodic table, anyway?)

MadaboutDana wrote:

I think it's a shame Findings has limited itself specifically to
research contexts,
Bill

You're quite right, it's so useful for answering quiz questions. Should have thought of that.

Ha! FWIW, Findings is from the same developer who made Studies (formerly known as Mental Case). And also makes Manuscripts. So, academe is their interest, perhaps.

MadaboutDana wrote:

You're quite right, it's so useful for answering quiz questions. Should
have thought of that.

Paul Korm wrote:

Findings 2 looks like a good CRIMP -- I like the Protocols idea.

@Hugh -- I agree on the DEVONthink look/feel aspect, but Findings and
DEVONthink are apples and oranges aren't they? I don't see the
comparison.

Yes, not closely related, I agree. But in the broadest sense they're both designed for stashing stuff. I'm not a scientist, not any more anyway, but I do keep an eye open for ways of importing and storing material researched for, and notes jotted down for, long-form writing, and those are the uses to which I mainly put DT. On a casual overview, it seems that Findings might do a similar job, though probably more awkwardly.

By and large, I'd be one of the first people to defend DT's UI against criticism (which as I expect you know, it has faced). DT's UI is far from where its chief value lies. But I hope the DT developers recognise that macOS application design is moving on, and the Findings UI shows one direction in which it's going.

Paul Korm wrote:

And who
doesn't need one-click access to the periodic table, anyway?

So fundamentally true!

Findings is on SetApp. Ill wonder if Findings 2 will be posted there soon.