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Posted by shatteredmindofbob
Jan 21, 2018 at 04:42 AM
I like this and see a lot of potential.
The 10,000 word design document reminds me of MaxThink, where again, the manual was more about the philosophy of “how to think” rather than how to actually use the software.
I also like the idea of antisocial, neurotic and introverted software (which are all adjectives that have been used to describe me at one point or another).
That said, that are still features lacking that keep me from using this. I need to be able to save and load different files. Taking that further, I’d want import/export. When interacting with my thoughts, I want to be able to get thoughts both in and out of the software assisting me.
Posted by washere
Jan 22, 2018 at 03:02 PM
@Dev Thanks for your response to some feedback. Hope you consider the other feedback in this thread too at some point in future, if you have time. Good job, keep going.
Posted by Mark Nevarrik
Jan 22, 2018 at 06:34 PM
Chris Thompson wrote:
>Mark, if you’ve never read Bernstein’s “The Tinderbox Way”, you’d
>undoubtedly enjoy it. Probably doubly so if you chase down some of the
>academic papers on spatial hypertext the author refers to in that book.
Chris, thanks for the recommendation, and for taking the time to read my thoughts. I looked at sample PDF for “The Tinderbox Way,” and it seemed like mostly a software manual for Tinderbox. Good ideas can come from anywhere, but I’m trying to get my influences from outside of software.
As for the spatial hypertext, did you mean the ZigZag database? I have read their papers here: http://www.xanadu.com/zigzag/
Those were interesting ideas, and it reminds me of the ideas of Tim Berners-Lee and the development of NCSA Mosaic. Tim Berners-Lee took all these ideas floating around and formed a coherent design and developed the first web browser. Only it wasn’t until Mosaic—that he had misgivings about—introduced things like the back/forward stack and a hand cursor when hovering over hyperlinks that it began to get popular.
Some people could see the future before that, but most people had to get a feel for it with all those little edges sanded down.
Sharknader wrote:
>My only gripe is that I wish I
>could start a new column from any sub-item (even before it has any
>children).
>
Sharknader, you were right about this. I changed it to as you said and it is way better—not only is it more clear what is happened because it doesn’t switch column headers from where your focus is, but sometimes you want to start outlining from a leaf element. Great idea. New version is released as of today.
shatteredmindofbob wrote:
>That said, that are still features lacking that keep me from using this.
>I need to be able to save and load different files.
>
I can see the pain of no file management. I have multiple windows, and an open node search pane in the works. Adding more files wouldn’t be hard, only I wonder if the real problem isn’t “I want to control and switch to a separate view.” What if you could have different tabs each with their own set of columns that you can switch between?
>Taking that further,
>I’d want import/export. When interacting with my thoughts, I want to be
>able to get thoughts both in and out of the software assisting me.
>
I’m probably ignorant about what programs Indigrid can/should import from/export to, and what formats it needs to support to do that. I thought that plain-text was a common enough denominator to work on most programs. What is it missing exactly?
washere wrote:
@Dev Thanks for your response to some feedback. Hope you consider the
>other feedback in this thread too at some point in future, if you have
>time. Good job, keep going.
Washere, thank you the encouragement. Anything you want to see? Anything that I missed?
Posted by washere
Jan 22, 2018 at 07:15 PM
>washere wrote:
>@Dev Thanks for your response to some feedback. Hope you consider the
>>other feedback in this thread too at some point in future, if you have
>>time. Good job, keep going.
>
>Washere, thank you the encouragement. Anything you want to see? Anything
>that I missed?
What did you not miss buddy? Look at my post on bottom of page 2. File menu standards, open close save save-as. not to mention import export and a couple filetype formats for them. Crash still happens, just relaunches. After launch hitting new-line does nothing. View: open in column to left or right kicks things in but just duplicates first pane. bottom bar fix is basically auto-hide some commands, unorthodox, instead of toolbar. etc etc. Very unorthodox, needs to be standard interface and basic functions and basic outliner features too.
Have a look at my post again if you get enough time.
Best wishes bud.
Posted by shatteredmindofbob
Jan 23, 2018 at 10:59 AM
Mark Nevarrik wrote:
>
>shatteredmindofbob wrote:
>>That said, that are still features lacking that keep me from using
>this.
>>I need to be able to save and load different files.
>>
>
>I can see the pain of no file management. I have multiple windows, and
>an open node search pane in the works. Adding more files wouldn’t be
>hard, only I wonder if the real problem isn’t “I want to control and
>switch to a separate view.” What if you could have different tabs each
>with their own set of columns that you can switch between?
>
It’s not so much about a separate view, but a completely separate document. If say, I want to flesh out a completely new idea, I’d want to be able to quickly begin from scratch, something that isn’t connected to anything else.
>>Taking that further,
>>I’d want import/export. When interacting with my thoughts, I want to be
>>able to get thoughts both in and out of the software assisting me.
>>
>
>I’m probably ignorant about what programs Indigrid can/should import
>from/export to, and what formats it needs to support to do that. I
>thought that plain-text was a common enough denominator to work on most
>programs. What is it missing exactly?
>
Plain text is fine for import/export, you’d just need to ability to even save to a .txt file, without having to rely on copying and pasting.