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Posted by Simon
Nov 6, 2017 at 10:25 AM
I’ve been an OO fan since the early days, but rarely use the app now. Mainly because styling is such a mess in my opinion. Completely unintuitive.
I mostly use Workflowy, in the hope that their iOS apps will finally (after 4years) see some development.
One of my all time favourites, that lacks a companion macOS app but does allow access over wifi is Trunk Notes. It’s a mobile wiki with really cool features allowing some nifty setups.
Voodoopad was another great app killed by those folks at plausible labs who kept promising, but never delivering. I was so sad that Gus sold it.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 6, 2017 at 11:41 AM
Yes, I love TrunkNotes, and remain baffled as to why there isn’t a desktop version. But it’s a wonderful iOS app. If I spent all day working on an iPad, I’d use it much more than I do.
Having said that, Bear and Outlinely have much better search functions, and allow you to connect to individual notes as well, so they’re perfectly capable of acting as a personal wiki.
Ulysses still doesn’t allow you to link to individual notes; there are a number of areas where Ulysses needs to take some big steps forward, IMHO. It’s very good at what it does, but to be the all-round writing app it claims to be, it needs to be capable of a little more.
Posted by Dellu
Nov 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM
I generally don’t like outliners because they tend to be bucket systems (write a lot of information in a single file). They are less friendly to Devonthink’s AI.
- I tried OO many times; gave up with it
But, I am wondering which of the apps should be considered as outliner and which do not.
is Keep It outliner? The difference between Bear and Keep It is quite minimal. I, however, find Keep It more useful than Bear.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Nov 6, 2017 at 12:35 PM
What is and what isn’t an outliner is open for interpretation. For some it seems that anything that allows you to generate a hierarchy is an outliner, but my own definition is that a genuine outliner is a single-pane app that allows you to add notes inline in the single pane. The intent of this thread appears to restrict the discussion to the latter definition.
Dellu wrote:
I generally don’t like outliners because they tend to be bucket systems
>(write a lot of information in a single file). They are less friendly to
>Devonthink’s AI.
>
>- I tried OO many times; gave up with it
>
>But, I am wondering which of the apps should be considered as outliner
>and which do not.
>
>is Keep It outliner? The difference between Bear and Keep It is quite
>minimal. I, however, find Keep It more useful than Bear.
>
>
Posted by Paul Korm
Nov 6, 2017 at 09:29 PM
That’s a good working definition—and given that definition I’d suggest the universe of software discussed in this thread could expand to included “mind mapping”. For me, that means iThoughtsX and iThoughts on iOS/macOS. It’s a great notetaker / outliner and syncs seamlessly—better than an of its peers, IMO.
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
What is and what isn’t an outliner is open for interpretation. For some
>it seems that anything that allows you to generate a hierarchy is an
>outliner, but my own definition is that a genuine outliner is a
>single-pane app that allows you to add notes inline in the single pane.
>The intent of this thread appears to restrict the discussion to the
>latter definition.