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Posted by tightbeam
Sep 24, 2017 at 11:43 AM
I’d cut Listerene some slack as well. It can be extremely frustrating for Windows users to read about all the great Mac software they can’t use. I’m sure Literature & Latte does know where the money is, at least for their product, but it still goes against logic to ignore (or at least not give parity to) the far greater number of Windows users.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Sep 24, 2017 at 11:49 AM
What writing app do you use in Windows instead of Scrivener?
In my experience, Scrivener for Windows is a pretty full-featured writing suite in its own right. Yes, compared to the Mac version, it isn’t as feature-rich, but I haven’t found a better single-solution writing app for Windows.
Steve Z.
Posted by Franz Grieser
Sep 24, 2017 at 01:31 PM
Listerene wrote:
>Still irritates me that the OS with 85% of the market continues to get
>the short end of the stick in their development.
First: We don’t know how many of their customers use the Mac, the Windows, the iOS or the Linux version.
Second: I have both the Windows and the Mac version, and I can do everything I need to to in the Windows version. I can’t understand the Windows users’ whining. (And: Yes, I am aware of the differences between the Mac and the Win version).
Posted by Hugh
Sep 24, 2017 at 02:30 PM
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
What writing app do you use in Windows instead of Scrivener?
>
>In my experience, Scrivener for Windows is a pretty full-featured
>writing suite in its own right. Yes, compared to the Mac version, it
>isn’t as feature-rich, but I haven’t found a better single-solution
>writing app for Windows.
>
>Steve Z.
I think it’s true to say that most of the reasonably well-known author-users of Scrivener on the Mac came to it and first successfully used it for (published) books when it was significantly less capable than Scrivener for Windows is now.
The problem for Scrivener’s Windows development is that it started at least five years after Keith Blount had started work on the Mac version, and by and large despite considerable efforts by the (two-man) Windows team, the Mac version remains more advanced.
Why did Keith start on the Mac, not Windows? The arguments have been rehearsed on this forum previously. But if I remember correctly Keith has written that the Mac developing environment was simply more encouraging. In particular, the “frameworks and tools” that he needed (I take it this means “off-the-shelf pieces of code”) were available for OSX (now macOS) at little or no cost, and they simply weren’t available at all for Windows. He’d have had to code them himself, and that would have taken far longer.
That I believe is the reason that Scrivener was first launched on the Mac, despite economic logic perhaps suggesting that it was the wrong thing to do. (I hope I haven’t misquoted Keith.)
Now, I believe the circumstances have changed. Keith has written several times that Scrivener for Windows is skipping its Version 2 and is aiming for a Version 3 launch which will have “feature-parity” with Scrivener for the Mac at some point during 2018.
Posted by critStock
Sep 24, 2017 at 08:55 PM
Hugh, I think you have this all exactly right. As a Windows-only user, I remember waiting years for WinScriv, and I am extremely grateful for it! Almost none of the other wonderful-sounding Mac tools lauded by folks on this forum have even *considered* porting to Windows. So, again, I am extremely grateful to the L&L team. For this alone they should be cut a *lot* of slack by Win users. I have total respect, too, for the fact that they have put their loyal Mac user base first even as they have rolled out the Win version. And I am incredibly excited for the coming v3 for Windows!
Cheers,
David
Hugh wrote:
>I think it’s true to say that most of the reasonably well-known
>author-users of Scrivener on the Mac came to it and first successfully
>used it for (published) books when it was significantly less capable
>than Scrivener for Windows is now.
>
>The problem for Scrivener’s Windows development is that it started at
>least five years after Keith Blount had started work on the Mac version,
>and by and large despite considerable efforts by the (two-man) Windows
>team, the Mac version remains more advanced.
>Now, I believe the circumstances have changed. Keith has written several
>times that Scrivener for Windows is skipping its Version 2 and is aiming
>for a Version 3 launch which will have “feature-parity” with Scrivener
>for the Mac at some point during 2018.