Up-to-date outliner rating matrix?
Started by David Fass
on 6/26/2008
David Fass
6/26/2008 11:29 am
Hi. I'm in the preliminary stages of writing a book, and I've been using a hodge-podge of tools to keep track of story elements, plot points, characters, and other assorted cruft. I'd like to find a nice outlining/note tool that I can use for all these bookkeeping tasks, one that makes navigation and structural-modification very easy. I have tested Jot+, TreePad, and ActionOutline, and I found disappointments with each of those. (I already have StoryView, which is an outlining tool geared toward scene manipulation, but not for assembling loose ideas.)
I saw mentioned on this forum Ultra Recall and WhizFolders, and I plan to test those next, but this is all fairly time-consuming. So I wonder: Has anyone on this group compiled a matrix of modern outlining tools, perhaps rating each one? It seems like everyone here has one or two favorites, but it's very hard to figure out which would be best for my needs, and there are very few software reviews out there on the web. So, again, is there some objective comparison of the different tools available (written within the past 2 years, hopefully)? Thanks very much. -- Dave
I saw mentioned on this forum Ultra Recall and WhizFolders, and I plan to test those next, but this is all fairly time-consuming. So I wonder: Has anyone on this group compiled a matrix of modern outlining tools, perhaps rating each one? It seems like everyone here has one or two favorites, but it's very hard to figure out which would be best for my needs, and there are very few software reviews out there on the web. So, again, is there some objective comparison of the different tools available (written within the past 2 years, hopefully)? Thanks very much. -- Dave
Stephen Zeoli
6/26/2008 12:48 pm
Paul Kurucz put together a matrix like this at one point several years ago. I do not know if he has kept it up to date, but here is the link:
http://www.kurucz.ca/research/information.html
Good luck.
Steve Z.
http://www.kurucz.ca/research/information.html
Good luck.
Steve Z.
Hugh
6/26/2008 2:58 pm
David,
I don't know of an up-to-date matrix of the kind you're seeking. About 18 months ago I searched for almost the tool you're looking for (not quite - I also wanted a reliable drafter), and only found it in Scrivener on the Mac.
Here (http://www.literatureandlatte.com/links.html you'll find a list of Windows writing tools (scroll down), some of which include the functionality you want. Of these, Liquid Story Binder (http://www.blackobelisksoftware.com/ is probably the most accomplished.
Otherwise, Power Structure and Power Writer are also worth investigating. They're no longer developed as far as I can see, and somewhat clunky, but Google will turn them up.
H
I don't know of an up-to-date matrix of the kind you're seeking. About 18 months ago I searched for almost the tool you're looking for (not quite - I also wanted a reliable drafter), and only found it in Scrivener on the Mac.
Here (http://www.literatureandlatte.com/links.html you'll find a list of Windows writing tools (scroll down), some of which include the functionality you want. Of these, Liquid Story Binder (http://www.blackobelisksoftware.com/ is probably the most accomplished.
Otherwise, Power Structure and Power Writer are also worth investigating. They're no longer developed as far as I can see, and somewhat clunky, but Google will turn them up.
H
David Dunham
6/26/2008 3:07 pm
That matrix is kind of thin on the Mac side. is a pretty extensive list of Mac tools, though I don't think he makes any attempt to rate them.
David Dunham
6/26/2008 3:08 pm
Argh, never know how to format stuff with different forum software. How about this for the URL: http://www.pure-mac.com/pims.html
Hugh
6/26/2008 3:17 pm
David Dunham wrote:
Argh, never know how to format stuff with different forum software. How about this for
the URL: http://www.pure-mac.com/pims.html
Big mistake! Shouldn't have looked at that... A Macincrimper's dream...
Stephen Zeoli
6/26/2008 4:44 pm
Another option to consider is SuperNoteCard (www.mindola.com). It has some nice features. The drawback for me is that I find the editor a little clunky... probably due to its Java lineage. But definitely worth a look. It has the following features:
* Card-based organization.
* Hierarchical (outline?) view of material.
* Research/character reference area.
* Useful metadata for each card.
* Low cost ($29)
Steve Z.
* Card-based organization.
* Hierarchical (outline?) view of material.
* Research/character reference area.
* Useful metadata for each card.
* Low cost ($29)
Steve Z.
Hugh
6/26/2008 5:14 pm
FWIW, here's another list - more than a year old, arguably incomplete and not a matrix: http://www.psychinnovations.com/psych/node/37
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