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Posted by Armin
Sep 7, 2017 at 09:06 PM
3x Windows 10 (1x Desktop, 1x Notebook, 1x Windows 10 Mobile + 1x Windows Phone 8)
I agree to previous posts about the dominance of MacOS/iOS threads here in OutlinerSoftware. But good to read, that there are still a lot of Windows user here.
Anyway, without the tips in this forum I never would have found some of the information management jewels.
On Windows I use mainly
ConnectedText
Zootsoftware
MindManager
Smartdown II
VUE
Citavi
Word (MS Office in General)
rather OneNote than Evernote (latter for a specific project),
(Occasionally I use additional outliners/information tools)
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>2. Windows Phone 10; I’ve dumped my Android one and never looked back.
Wow, I’m impressed. Now I’m feeling no longer alone with my Windows 10 Mobile device :-)
Regards
Armin
Posted by Paul Korm
Sep 7, 2017 at 11:10 PM
Perhaps the forum needs to be split in two so macOS topics would be posted in a section for that, and the Windows folk would have a section limited to Windows topics? The problem for Mac users, IMO, is that there is no forum on the topic of this forum for Mac users—at least not one I’ve ever found. I only use Windows for client work (their standard), and Mac otherwise—and I can understand the apparent frustration with the “dominance” of Mac topics. We do chatter too much :-))
Armin wrote:
>I agree to previous posts about the dominance of MacOS/iOS threads here
>in OutlinerSoftware.
Posted by dan7000
Sep 7, 2017 at 11:34 PM
A Windows v Mac thread - I love it! Feels like 1995 :)
I have 3 Windows laptops. One owned by my employer, the other 2 by me. Every time I consider getting a Mac I just can’t believe the ridiculous price difference. I basically do everything either on the web or MS Office so OS really doesn’t matter much to me. I refuse to buy single-platform software and the non-web software I do have is all cross-platform.
I’m using a Dell laptop right now that I bought new 8 months ago for $210. It has an SSD which is one key requirement for me since I’ve had many hard drives fail - probably because I travel constantly and treat laptops pretty roughly. It runs Windows 10 flawlessly. My other key requirement - also because of travel - is light weight. This machine weighs less than 3 lbs. I store everything in the cloud (Tresorit for secure stuff, Dropbox and Gmail for everything else) - another lesson learned after many failed hard drives.
A Mac that weighs this little and has an SSD would have cost me five times as much! I see Macs as luxury items. It’s like buying a top of the line Tesla. Sure it’s neat and it’s got some great features. But only rich people can afford them and even if you’re rich it’s just vanity to own one if all you do is drive to the supermarket a couple times a week. However, if you commute 60 miles a day *and* you have the money, then a Tesla makes sense. Personally, I can’t see spending $1,000 on a laptop. And when I think about what software will be around for a long time and be successful, I also have to imagine that the vast majority of people and businesses will always choose laptops based primarily on price, so if I stick with the economy choice, I will be using the OS that is most likely to capture most of the market.
My other 2 laptops are both Lenovo. Both a little heavier but both have SSDs too. I also have an iPad, 3 Android tablets, and an iPhone. Yeah, a little hypocritical to have an iphone and ipad after what I wrote above. But Android just really cannot compete with iOS yet on so many levels. As soon as it can, I’m getting a $50 LG phone and ditching my $600 luxury phone.
Main software tools:
- Focuster (web-based todo list)
- Scrivener
- Evernote
- Word
- Excel
- Outlook
- Opera/Chrome/Firefox
- Gmail / Google Calendar
- Foxit PDF editor
Posted by dan7000
Sep 8, 2017 at 12:20 AM
Oh and I’ve also been using iCloud notes a lot lately. The security is great and iphone access is superb. Browser interface is so-so. I would use StandardNotes if I could trust the security more (if it was independently verified etc). I’d also use turtl.it if they’d ever finish their iphone client.
Posted by Lucas
Sep 8, 2017 at 02:36 AM
dan7000 wrote:
>And when I think about what software will be around for a long time and
>be successful, I also have to imagine that the vast majority of people
>and businesses will always choose laptops based primarily on price, so
>if I stick with the economy choice, I will be using the OS that is most
>likely to capture most of the market.
>
Interesting thread and interesting post. Regarding the above, I would just point out that people and businesses will choose laptops not only on a price basis, but also, of course, on a functionality basis. For instance, when choosing between Linux and Windows, functionality and software availability clearly comes into the picture. So I think the question of the computer market is a lot more complex (as is the question of the software market—there are good reasons that lots of exciting software development is happening for Macs, for instance).
Personally, as a CRIMP-er, I prefer to have access to both Mac and Windows. I like to be able to use Tinderbox and other great Mac software, and I like to be able to use InfoQube and other great Windows software. Plus, as others have pointed out, Microsoft Office is still superior on Windows.
(At one point I also tried to set up a virtual Linux OS just to try some intriguing information management software that was only available for Linux.)
But despite my preference to have access to as much good software as possible, and hence my preference to have access to both Mac and Windows, I would not call myself platform-agnostic. On the contrary, I have a strong preference for Mac OS X. I used to like Windows, but I have never recovered from my irritation with the way Windows decided to force users to interact with system settings via an insultingly dumbed-down, mobile-like interface. Trying to make Windows more mobile-like just made it worse, from my perspective. The “System Preferences” interface on the Mac, on the contary, is a heck of a lot better (as are some other Mac features which I won’t go into here).
Right now I only have a Mac machine, so I use Windows only via a virtual OS (using Veertu). This works well enough but slows my system down a bit too much, so I don’t use Windows as much as I would otherwise. I’ve actually been thinking recently of investing in a Windows laptop to have easier access to Windows.