Ultra Recall will be featured on Bits du Jour (http://www.bitsdujour.com/ on the 25th June. The 62% discount is valid for both versions, standard and professional.

See:
http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/ultra-recall/

Dominik

Am I the only one who started to think about UR's future when I read this?

Jan, do you see it as a sign of trouble -- I would have thought UR had good market share, and this is a way to increase user base rapidly. Mind you, they have done this at least once before -- is that what perhaps triggers your concern.

The market may be in for a shake-up. I am thinking Zoot, now at ver. 5.1 and counting; SQL Notes that may see many, many former Ecco users changing from whatever they now use; and as I indicated just now, I am impressed with DoOrganizer -- I have checked out recently a number of programs similar to DO, and DO seems to be the best.

Also, one feature DO has, that I should have mentioned, is you can split the hour into thirds, rather than just halves and quarters as most programs allow you to do. I prefer planning on a 20-minute module.

Cheers,

Daly

Jan Rifkinson wrote:

Am I the only one who started to think about UR's future when I read this?

Greetings! I'm new here, but I've been lurking quite actively.

I'm not sure why a one-day discount on Bits du Jour should make anyone worry. I agree that this is a good way to expand market share. Also, Ultra Recall has been updated regularly and recently. I've been using it here for a couple of weeks, after testing a number of other apps, and I'm really impressed. The real revelation came when I learned to use custom attributes and forms. I'll post some more about my experiences soon. (I've also been using whizfolders for some things -- more on that later, too.)

IMHO, Ultra Recall suffers from one thing only: it seriously needs more user-friendly documentation. It needs to be "activity-/goal-oriented," instead of terminologically driven, as it is now. And there need to be flash tutorials or something. I've spent some time burrowing in the depths, and I've discovered how to do things I've wanted to do but couldn't describe, as well as things I didn't know could be done. If UR can find a way to introduce their product to scholars, writers and other people who need to manage a lot of info (who doesn't?!), the will have a big hit on their hands.

As I say, more later. But let me just identify myself as a college professor of literature (Save the Humanatees!), researcher and writer. The app I've been looking for needs to let me manage references (sources), source documents in pdf and doc formats, and notes from these sources; work in foreign languages (including Russian); and outline and export writing projects.

Cheers,
critStock

Daly de Gagne wrote:

Jan, do you see it as a sign of trouble -- I would have thought UR had good market share,
and this is a way to increase user base rapidly. Mind you, they have done this at least
once before -- is that what perhaps triggers your concern.

Yes because it means to me that they may not have a big enough market share to offset development time/energy. They've been veeeeery quiet since v3.5; maybe vaca? Just leery these days after ADM fiasco.

I believe UR is very close to the kind of good PIM/data gatherer tool that many of us have been chasing for some time. Missing pieces include a real calendar module & a few other things. From there on, it's icing on the cake.

I don't believe Zoot will overtake UR any time soon. OTOH, I don't think anything does what Zoot does better. SQLNotes certainly has real possibilities but it's another one-man show -- as devoted as Pierre is. Having said that I use a very elegant, complex & useful DAM program (images) which was -- until recently -- a one man show w the author still actively involved. This is the best of all solutions vs selling out to & getting lost in some monster company like what happened w Ecco.

I looked at DO again & for a daily task manager it may be good as it certainly has a lot of options but then, so does Outlook & I'm not sure what the real life differences are between the two.

I just keep insisting there is a niche for an excellent all-in-one tool. At the moment I've got to continue my bet on UR as I've got so much invested (time/effort) in it so I'm keeping my fingers crossed but my options open.

You can tell a restaurant is about to close when it begins offering a daily special after never having done so before.

That said, I bought Ultra Recall Pro at a discounted price the last time they sold it this way. I never would have tried it at its full $99 price because I thought of it as just another tree-based PIM. Now I'm hooked and will gladly pay full price the next time I'm required to for an upgrade.

The fact that they just added a bunch of new features in version 3.5 is a good sign they'll be here for a while.

This is not the first time they are offering such steep discount.
There are many other companies offering steep discounts on bitsdujour and similar sites.
UR has long history.
The 3.5 release being rather recent, I'm wondering how you find them missing, it's probably few weeks to months until next release. They are not overly active on the forums anyway, though they answer often. Maybe they just took some short well-deserved vacation.
Not sure if other replies covered this already, bitsdujour website targets different users, mostly those who would have never bought UR otherwise. Discount seekers, and impulse buyers. Yes, there is some intersection with those who would have bought anyway, but IMHO (and what I know from other developers and from the original creators and owners of bitsdujour) the lost income is more than balanced by the extra sales on most titles offered, and consequently through upgrade fees (though years later).

Thomas wrote:

The 3.5 release being rather recent"

I double-checked, and 3.5 was released May 28 -- a month ago. Hardly an eon. And a quick survey of the forums shows Kinook responding promptly to queries steadily over the last couple of months (that's all I checked). Their roadmap, posted in the forums, was last updated April 26. I don't see any sign of neglect or trouble WHATSOEVER.

I write this not to be argumentative, but rather b/c I wouldn't want anyone to be leery of Ultra Recall because of erroneous information. This is a matter not only of ethics, but also of self-interest: the more people use Ultra Recall, the stronger it will get and the more inclined Kinook will be to develop it. (Er, either that, or they will end up biting off more than they can chew like that poor fellow at GemX. I hope not!)

Cheers,
critStock