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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Oct 5, 2006 at 07:09 PM
David Dunham wrote:
>I do wonder why they mix Windows
>outline gadgets (left pane) and Mac outline gadgets (right pane).
Well, they don’t; the icons you refer to as Mac, are actually the original ones used in Windows outliners, as far as I know. In fact, they are still used in most OPML related outliners.
I agree that it does look rather weird, but I guess it’s a way of avoiding any confusion between the two hierarchies (left and right).
alx
Posted by Derek Cornish
Oct 6, 2006 at 12:02 AM
Graham -
Thanks for casting an eye over my description of problems with Zoot file-linking. There are so many ways to do (roughly) the same thing in Zoot that it is not always clear which action will achieve what result. The sync-ing with Windows folders does work neatly, though.
> I have been usiing Infoselect for a few months now, instead of Zoot.
I used IS for many years when it was a little DOS post-it notes type of program - but very versatile. I re-installed it a few months ago, but can’t remember whether I got it to run under XP. In any case I doubt whether it would be much better than a simple Windows two-pane note-taker nowadays. I haven’t tried out the IS/Windows version you use, mainly because they don’t seem to have a trial version. I like to see what I am getting. It’s clear, though, that it has become a much more powerful program. As others have mentioned in this forum, MS-OneNote (the 2007 version) is also looking pretty enticing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_OneNote).
Most of my activities are text-based, however. Although we used a lot of photos, tables, graphs, etc. for the last project, I’m not planning another one like that. So while I have looked at other software (e.g., Ultra Recall), RTF and ability to store images internally haven’t been priorities. Given my modest requirements Zoot remains a very powerful HQ for information-management - hence my continuing exploration of its linking abilities. I do hanker after an integrated outliner for its editor-pane, however, so even for text-work it has its limitations for my purposes.
Like others here I regularly do the rounds of competing software (CRIMP twinge: IdeaMason looks interesting), but the more often I come back to Zoot and use it again the more I admire it. There is something positively virtuous about its focus on the text…
Derek
Posted by Graham Smith
Oct 6, 2006 at 06:41 AM
Derek
> I haven’t tried out the IS/Windows version you use, mainly because they don’t seem to have a trial version. I
>like to see what I am getting. It’s clear, though, that it has become a much more powerful program. As others have >mentioned in this forum,
This is a real problem as they expect you to buy the program, and then ask for your money back, if you don’t like it. Existing users had to pay for the next version to be allowed to participate in the beta testing of it. The beta serial number being good for the final release. However, the final release has been out for some time now, is two versions on from the last beta, and IS haven’t informed any of their beta testers that it is out. The beta auto update just tells you that you are running the latest version, which you are not.
>Given my modest requirements Zoot remains a very powerful HQ for information-management - hence my continuing >exploration of its linking abilities.
Working with text there is nothing modest about Zoot’s abiities, as I said in my last response, I don’t think anything comes close to Zoot for raw power.
Graham
Posted by Derek Cornish
Oct 6, 2006 at 08:18 AM
Graham -
> >Given my modest requirements
I should have been clearer; I meant “modest” in relation to graphics. I absolutely agree about Zoot’s power.
By the way, to my chagrin I found on searching Zoot’s archives that I had asked an almost identical question last year about which kinds of file-links/shortcuts are searchable in Zoot. In addition to those created by folder sync-ing, those created by dragging and dropping file names from a file manager on to the Zooter are also searchable.
I realized tonight that both types of file-link have a special file-link icon in the item subject-line. If I had been paying attention to these icons I would have spotted the difference more quickly.
Derek
Posted by Graham Smith
Oct 6, 2006 at 09:22 AM
Derek,
>> >Given my modest requirements
>
>I should have been clearer; I meant
>“modest” in relation to graphics. I absolutely agree about Zoot’s power.
I understand :-)
Graham