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Why are tags considered binary?
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Posted by Paul Korm
Mar 31, 2017 at 11:47 AM
... and of course databases are structured with attributes. A nice personal solution for making what you seem to be looking for is Airtable.
Posted by Lothar Scholz
Mar 31, 2017 at 01:42 PM
I was only thinking about the user experience.
At the moment i consider tagging information as a an already learned task which is performed by people. I guess we technical guys often total underestimate the resistance of people to do more complicated things. So i think adding extra attributes will take way to long that it becames a habit.
In my idea the tag would be shown with anot just as a colored rectangle with the tag name but also a 5 star rating or a few pixel width tiny slider below the tag text where you can immediately change the value.
Special thanks for the the subtag idea. This is definitely something i will look into because i haven’t seen it yet. But i don’t think it does what i try to do with non binary tags.
Posted by zoe
Mar 31, 2017 at 02:01 PM
Lothar Scholz wrote:
I was only thinking about the user experience.
>
>At the moment i consider tagging information as a an already learned
>task which is performed by people. I guess we technical guys often total
>underestimate the resistance of people to do more complicated things. So
>i think adding extra attributes will take way to long that it becames a
>habit.
>
There appears to be a major trend in the direction of machine learning and neural networks for identifying and classifying “stuff.” For example, if you use Google Photos, you can search for “dogs” and it will return your photos which contain dogs. As this technology improves, the user’s own tagging will probably be reserved for esoteric or specialized vocabulary. Of course, this technology also requires users to give up their privacy rights to their data in order to help train the software; but the number of people who will not consent to this is likely to remain a small minority.
Posted by Dr Andus
Mar 31, 2017 at 02:27 PM
Paul Korm wrote:
>I think what you’re looking for might be a concept for “attributes” or
>“properties”: a {label, value} pair. This is the basis of XML, Apple’s
>.plists, and so on. The “label” is static, the “value” can vary. So
>you could have {animals, 100} and {nature, 50}, and so on.
>
>Tinderbox uses attribute data structures of this sort. Some
>mind-mapping apps do as well.
You can sort of do this in ConnectedText as well. There are attributes and properties and you can build your own tagging system (e.g. by having a drop-down combo box with a range of values), with associated queries. But it requires a somewhat advanced familiarity with CT, and it does require some effort to set it up. You can also have sub-tags (sub-categories) of a tag that can be displayed as a tree hierarchy.