Excellent new to-do list program

Started by Leib Moscovitz on 3/30/2008
Leib Moscovitz 3/30/2008 3:44 am
Tudumo, a superb to-do list program (shareware for Windows $29.95), was recently released from beta.

This program, which combines power and simplicity in an extraordinarily efficient and user-friendly package, also uses minimal resources - VERY highly recommended! (It does not displace traditional calendar/PIM software, but rather supplements them.)

Please note that I am in no way connected to the developer, just a very satisfied user who has been using the program since it was in beta, and hence happy to pass on the news to others who might be interested.
Graham Rhind 3/30/2008 8:24 am
That's at http://www.tudumo.com/ by the way.

I know some people like simple task managers to allow focus, but this is far too simple in its current form for my liking. No recurrence supported (bangs head on keyboard); tasks only by date, not by time; no alarms and therefore no snoozing; no self-defined filters (but with a decent "find"); completion only shown by tagging or deleting, and to me a little on the expensive side for a nicely presented list program.

Graham
Graham Rhind 3/30/2008 8:25 am
Graham Rhind wrote:
completion only shown by tagging or deleting

Correction: this is there - I missed it - apologies.
Leib Moscovitz 3/30/2008 9:11 am


Graham Rhind wrote:
That's at http://www.tudumo.com/ by the way.

I know some people like simple task
managers to allow focus, but this is far too simple in its current form for my liking. No
recurrence supported (bangs head on keyboard); tasks only by date, not by time; no
alarms and therefore no snoozing; no self-defined filters (but with a decent
"find"); completion only shown by tagging or deleting, and to me a little on the
expensive side for a nicely presented list program.

Graham

There is an option to set times and alarms, including snoozing, for tasks. Likewise, the tagging option can be used for filtering.
Graham Rhind 3/30/2008 9:34 am
LM7 wrote:
There is an option to set times and alarms, including
snoozing, for tasks. Likewise, the tagging option can be used for filtering.

I stand corrected - it took a while to find how to do that, though, and it's not mentioned in the help file. It seems to only allow times set on the hour and half hour, not before 07.00 and not after 22.00. Still too simplistic and rigidly structured for my tastes.

Graham
Graham Rhind 3/30/2008 9:36 am

LM7 wrote:
Likewise, the tagging option can be used for filtering.

Yes, which is why I specified "self-defined" - for example, tag="Shopping" and date
Richard 3/31/2008 7:58 am
Hi there - saw some links to Tudumo from here so thought I'd ping you. Hope it's counted as response, not spam!

Graham Rhind wrote:
I know some people like simple task
managers to allow focus, but this is far too simple in its current form for my liking. No
recurrence supported (bangs head on keyboard);

My head's being banged for that as well - I have some code for it but will try to get it slick before I release that.

no self-defined filters

Coming - likely as "smart views". The trick is to get it nicely integrated into the view without making it a dogs breakfast.

expensive side for a nicely presented list program.

Oy ;)

Kidding, my skin is pretty thick by now! Tudumo isn't going to try do everything, rather I'll focus on reworking existing functionality until it's super-hot, and then add new stuff conservatively. But thanks for trying it out - if you have specific requests, either post here or mail me. richard (at) tudumo.com
Graham Rhind 3/31/2008 1:36 pm
Hi Richard,

I'm beginning to regret my comment about the price ;-)

Personally I like it when developers contribute to this forum - apart from anything else, it shows commitment to their products!

As you know, I found Tudumo a little restricting in its current form - as I mentioned in another post, many developers aim for usability but confuse it with lack of sophistication - a program can be powerful and also simple to use. It can currently, for example, show due today and overdue tasks, task for the next 3 and 7 days, or all tasks - but why not the next 5 days? Why not allow times before 7.00 and after 22.00? I know it's version 1 (our experience here is that many programs don't get much further!), but I do remain curious about where you plan to take Tudumo, and if it loses the straight jacket, I think it could have potential.

Graham

Richard wrote:
Hi there - saw some links to Tudumo from here so thought I'd ping you. Hope it's counted
as response, not spam!

Graham Rhind wrote:

>I know some people like simple task

>managers to allow focus, but this is far too simple in its current form for my liking.
No
>recurrence supported (bangs head on keyboard);

My head's being banged for
that as well - I have some code for it but will try to get it slick before I release
that.

> no self-defined filters

Coming - likely as "smart views". The trick is to
get it nicely integrated into the view without making it a dogs
breakfast.

>expensive side for a nicely presented list program.

Oy
;)

Kidding, my skin is pretty thick by now! Tudumo isn't going to try do everything,
rather I'll focus on reworking existing functionality until it's super-hot, and
then add new stuff conservatively. But thanks for trying it out - if you have specific
requests, either post here or mail me. richard (at) tudumo.com
Richard 3/31/2008 3:57 pm
Graham wrote:
It can currently, for example, show due today and overdue tasks, task for the
next 3 and 7 days, or all tasks - but why not the next 5 days?

No real reason - my aim is to chuck the date filter dropdown and create something really good for date filtering. The current solution is a placeholder, same as the reminder window. I'll be overhauling all the date-related stuff - reminder windows, date selectors and filters, recurring, etc.

Why not allow times before 7.00 and after 22.00?

Only because it's a menu and many more options would make it too long. That'll likely end up as a custom control as well.

Looking at your other list of features, what I do see as a potential showstopper for you is nested actions/headings. I've made quite a conscious decision to not support that in the current guise of the app. Not technical (had some tree support before) but rather a focus on getting the filtered-single-list concept as fast and clean as possible. If I add trees (and teams etc) it'd likely be in a more "projecty" version.

Things I'd like to add.
Better date handling. Remembering filters between sessions. "Smart views". Editable states. Outlook sync. Sync via the server (for multiple machines). View of some (important?) actions on the desktop. Pocketmod-type printing. Maybe some parsing IQ to the quick-add window. The reason why I'm using .net (ack) is so I can move it to Windows Mobile relatively easily - I think the app would suit the small screen well.