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Posted by Graham Smith
Sep 15, 2006 at 08:59 PM
Bruce,
Thanks for the clarification.
Graham
Bruce wrote:
>Graham Smith wrote:
>
>>I assume this is the program mentioned in the Open Office
>bibliographic
>>mailing list, wher it said something along the lines that this was
>the outcome of one of
>>the stages in developing the Open Office bibliographic
>project, which was going to be
>>released first as a FireFox extension.
>
>Just to
>clarify (I am one of the OOo bib project co-leads):
>
>The relationship between Zotero
>and OOoBib is not so direct. I developed some tools and specifications (for citation
>styling configuration—called CSL—and data exchange*) that I intend to also
>include in OOo.
>
>The Zotero guys have been helping me with some of this, and are using
>the same XML languages then. But we were not directly involved in the development.
>They are fully separate projects that are simply cooperating.
>
>Bruce
>
>* More here:
>http://xbiblio.sf.net.
Posted by dan7000
Nov 3, 2006 at 08:12 PM
I am a total CRIMPer and would have tried Zotero before but I didn’t feel like trying Firefox 2.0.
Today I downloaded it, and I give it a very enthusiastic thumbs-up.
I use ADM for just about everything. I’ve tried all the others and ADM just works for me. But I have needed a better solution for grabbing web pages. I’ve tried a few, including Ultrarecall for the past month. Ultrarecall has 2 problems: 1) it costs money; 2) it requires me to carefully drag the right things onto a status bar icon that’s often not there, and then - usually - go and check in the slow-loading program to make sure that it captured what I wanted.
Zotero is perfect for my uses, and will single-handedly convert me to a full-time Firefox user. In addition to grabbing web pages, it grabs links to pages and full screen captures, AND it keeps it all, quickly, in an outline form at the bottom of the browser. Plus, I can create my own notes to add to the outline, and I can add notes and field-style information to all of the captured pages. You can also add tags and links between items.
I do a lot of academic research, so the addition of author, publisher and other info is useful for me although so far it has not been downloaded at all consistently (they claim this is one of the high points: auto-fill of these fields. But if it doesn’t recognize that nytimes.com is a newspaper, and fail to get the author and publisher for NYTimes articles, then what the heck do you recognize?)
Another nit is that only “article” nodes can have children in the outliner. If they would allow “notes” to have children then maybe this thing could double as a full-featured outliner.
Aside from those items, I’m totally sold, and I highly recommend it.
Posted by Graham Smith
Nov 11, 2006 at 08:19 AM
Dan,
>Aside from those items, I’m
>totally sold, and I highly recommend it.
Another really useful feature is the ability to “scrape” bibliographic info from an Amazon.com page. Putting together a reading list, or order details for the university library, or adding book info to my bibliographic program has suddenly become a whole lot easier.
Onfolio was meant to be able to do this, but I never got it to work.
Graham
Posted by Derek Cornish
Nov 13, 2006 at 04:17 PM
Graham and Dan -
As another FireFox user (I’m on v1.5.0.8) I’ve been delaying upgrading to the (beta?) v2.0 of FireFox - in order to evaluate Zotero. Do you use a lot of FireFox extensions? If so, have you found most of them still work in FF2?
FireFox has a tradition of breaking extensions and, as I use about a dozen of them, I’ve been reluctant to move up.
Derek
Posted by Derek Cornish
Nov 13, 2006 at 04:32 PM
To answer my own question (maybe). There is a link that claims to provide provides “3 ways to make old extensions compatible with FireFox 2.0.” It is here:
http://www.perfectblogger.com/2006/09/make-extensions-compatible-with-firefox2/
Derek