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Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Feb 21, 2008 at 04:38 PM
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>Ken, many thanks; I had not seen this, though I do check Kinnok’s roadmap once in a
>while. Very interesting; I assumed that I wouldn’t be the only one hoping for a
>multi-user version!
UR uses SQLite so I would not count on robust multi-user access. See this doc on the SQLite web site:
http://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q5:
People who have a lot of experience with Windows tell me that file locking of network files is very buggy and is not dependable. If what they say is true, sharing an SQLite database between two or more Windows machines might cause unexpected problems.
Posted by Chris Thompson
Feb 21, 2008 at 05:23 PM
I’m sure if they go multi-user, they’ll do it right. No reason to suspect that they’re any less competent a developer than you are.
BTW, I’ve noticed that in several of your recent posts you’ve criticized other developers’ products. It might just be me, but I feel this is a little unseemly… it’s probably a better reflection on your product if you stick to emphasizing the positives of your own product.
—Chris
Pierre Paul Landry wrote:
>UR uses SQLite so I would not count on
>robust multi-user access. See this doc on the SQLite web
>site:
>http://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q5:
>People who have a lot of experience
>with Windows tell me that file locking of network files is very buggy and is not
>dependable. If what they say is true, sharing an SQLite database between two or more
>Windows machines might cause unexpected problems.
Posted by Graham Rhind
Feb 21, 2008 at 05:56 PM
I have to say that I have always found Pierre’s posts a model of balance - more so than mine - considering his position as a developer of outliner software. I think his point is important and relevant, and I don’t have any reason to believe that Kinook is any different when it comes to making mistakes when developing and releasing software than other developers.
Perhaps Kinook will change database engine, but multi-user data access is a problem for most database engines.
Graham
Chris Thompson wrote:
>BTW, I’ve noticed that in several of
>your recent posts you’ve criticized other developers’ products. It might just be me,
>but I feel this is a little unseemly… it’s probably a better reflection on your
>product if you stick to emphasizing the positives of your own product.
Posted by Cassius
Feb 21, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>I have been a registered user of MyBase 4 but didn’t upgrade to 5 as my needs became rather more specialised. Nevertheless, I’ve been positively impressed by the product’s consistent development.
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* I think that I forgot to mention that user support is excellent. The producer, wjjsoft, is located in central China, so there’s a substantial time difference. Nevertheless, I’ve always received a reply within 2-3 days at most.
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>Perhaps the single most important feature setting MyBase apart from most other similar outliners is the existence of a multi-user client-server network version. This used to be a version of MyBase itself, but has now been turned into a separate program, InnoKB, to which MyBase files can be converted: http://www.wjjsoft.com/innokb.html ...
>alx
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* I, too, used MyBase Version 4—version 5 is a substantial improvement. I have no use for InnoKB, but if it is similar to Ver 5, I think you (Alx) will like it.
-c
Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Feb 21, 2008 at 06:33 PM
@Chris
I’m deeply sorry if my last post (and/or previous ones) have come across as being negative w.r.t. other products. I have great respect for other’s people work. Especially when these people have released products, something I don’t have as of yet.
I was simply quoting information on the SQLite official web site. This link also states when to use and when not to use SQLite:
http://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html
Quote:
“A good rule of thumb is that you should avoid using SQLite in situations where the same database will be accessed simultaneously from many computers over a network filesystem.”
In the above quote “many” is of course quite vague and it may turn out that what Kinook is planning for multi-user is not “many” in which case SQLite will be just fine. Graham is also correct that to achieve true multi-user, Kinook may decide to change back-end database since there are numerous others available.