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"South Lake" from the maker of Journler (alpha) (Mac only)
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Posted by Dr Andus
Sep 7, 2016 at 02:40 PM
faustisch wrote:
>I try not to link anything between the programs so the workflow doesn’t
>break.
Thanks for that.
>So I guess you are disappointed now, I can’t code, so I wouldn’t know
>how to integrate them.
No, not at all. I was only wondering if you used some linking between them, especially between Zotero and CT. I also just use URL links between CT and WorkFlowy and Surfulater to link data.
>What I have in mind is to run all those programs from a USB stick. Then
>I can go to the library without my laptop and just plug the stick in,
>currently I have to carry it around.
An alternative might be a light portable Chromebook such as the Asus Flip, and then you can use Chrome Remote Desktop to connect to your heavy laptop at home, as and when you need it.
Posted by Jan S.
Sep 7, 2016 at 06:56 PM
Maybe you could also answer a quick question about the best practice to use citations in CT (I tried to register for the forums about a week ago but a moderator still has to approve me…).
I basically try to make CT my self-contained knowledge base, which means that bibliographical information should be included. The external reference manager—Zotero or anything else (I also have licenses for Citavi and Endnote through my university)—is just for PDF organization and formatting in final documents (.rtf or .docx).
I currently do it via categories like this: I write my note and add the citation in plain text in american format like one would in a journal article. So I would write some text and then go (Luhmann 1997: 33). Then I add the citation as a category [[$CATEGORY: Luhmann 1997]] and store the formatted full reference in it, This then also contains links to all the individual notes from the same text. I then make that Category a subcategory of [[$CATEGORY: Bibliography]] which gives me access to all text I have notes on in alphabetical order.
Is there a better way to do this? I have only used the basic features of CT so far.
I guess I could also add the files to the respective category, this would also make Zotero obsolete (except for place-holders formatting documents, which doesn’t save much time anyway—in my opinion). But that could also negatively effect performance I guess when I reach a couple thousand of PDFs. It might be better to seperate your own thoughts and excerpts from the source material anyway, like Luhmann did.
Posted by Dr Andus
Sep 7, 2016 at 08:30 PM
faustisch wrote:
>I currently do it via categories like this: I write my note and add the
>citation in plain text in american format like one would in a journal
>article. So I would write some text and then go (Luhmann 1997: 33). Then
>I add the citation as a category [[$CATEGORY: Luhmann 1997]] and store
>the formatted full reference in it, This then also contains links to all
>the individual notes from the same text. I then make that Category a
>subcategory of [[$CATEGORY: Bibliography]] which gives me access to all
>text I have notes on in alphabetical order.
>
>Is there a better way to do this? I have only used the basic features of
>CT so far.
That sounds like a reasonable system. What do you do though if you have multiple quotations from the same publication? Do you keep adding them to the same category page? I could see that becoming an issue, if there are too many quotes per publication.
I don’t add text to category topics as I prefer to have a clear distinction between topics (containers of text) and categories (I have some Python scripts that are based around that distinction).
As for my system, I’ve converted to the Luhmannite Zettelkasten principle of one bite-sized note per idea or quote. I don’t use CT for actual writing (it’s a notes database and a project manager for me), so I don’t have a need to use it as a cite-as-you-write reference manager.
Perhaps let’s continue the discussion on the CT forum, once you get approved, as all this is getting a bit too technical and OT here.
Posted by Captain CowPie
Sep 7, 2016 at 09:07 PM
Journler was my first PIM when I moved to the Mac and I loved it. It was a shame that the developer dropped it as it was well-designed.
Phil Dow reminds me a little of Jesse Grosjean of TaskPaper, another program that I love. Great software, but doesn’t always stay with one thing. Both programs are fantastic, but at this point I am looking for more stability in a product/company. I use TaskPaper 3 because I know the plain text format should always be around and I can change programs easily. Journler may or may not be proprietary.
If it looked promising I would probably try it to satisfy my curiosity and support indie developers, but I doubt it would be a long-term solution. I do wish him the best of luck.
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
Philip Dow is an inspired developer, except that he seems unable to
>follow through on the promise of his apps. I wrote a review of a little
>notebook app he developed post Journler called Per Se. You can find it
>here if you’re interested:
>
>http://mac.appstorm.net/reviews/productivity-review/per-se-makes-writing-your-journal-fun/
>
>I don’t believe Per Se was updated again after I wrote that review. So I
>wouldn’t hold my breath awaiting South Lake… though I hope I’m wrong.
>Sounds like a worthwhile project.
>
>Steve Z.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Sep 7, 2016 at 10:32 PM
For those of you who didn’t click over to my review of Per Se (probably all of you), the one feature of that app that I really admired was that when you filled a page in the notebook, your cursor would hope over to the next page. No long, scrolling documents in a “page.” I think that’s the only notebook-type app that I ever tried that did that. Just FYI.
Steve Z.