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Posted by Chris Thompson
Feb 19, 2008 at 07:04 PM
Are you looking to tag individual lines inside documents, or just the documents themselves?
As for graphical previews… I think they’re useful for recalling data you’ve stored previously. As a personal example, I used to use a program called WebnoteHappy for managing my web bookmarks. (Dumb name, good program btw.) It has a very nice tagging system, but it’s just that, pure tagging. Some time ago I switched to Yep/Leap, which has the same kind of tagging engine, but in addition presents documents graphically (you control the size; they’re not small icons). The tags I store are basically the same, but I’ve found that I interact much more with my bookmarks when I also have visual representations of what the pages look like that are large enough to jog my visual memory.
Incidentally, Yep/Leap also use the filesystem as an adjunct structure to tagging, which is also helpful.
—Chris
DaXiong wrote:
>Chris,
>
>I agree with your thoughts on single-pane outliners, but am not certain
>about your comment about tags.
>I’d kill to find a word-processor/outliner with
>tagging capability so I can cross reference my documents.
>
>Evernote isn’t really a
>word processor, and General KnowledgeBase just doesn’t “feel” right when I use
>it.
>
>Graphical stuff and icon previews seem like fluf to me, not really useful for the
>way I use software.
Posted by DaXiong
Feb 19, 2008 at 09:12 PM
Chris,
I’m looking to tag the document itself, not individual lines.
Since I’ve posted enough in here, should probably explain for all (it’s a great forum, with lots of good people).
I’m a preacher, and I struggle with keeping sermons organized. For a variety of reasons, I like outlining. (I used ECCO back when it was alive, but just can’t get back into it now).
What I’d love is an outliner/rich-text editor for writing, with an option to chose tags that are keywords for the sermons.
Honestly, the purpose built software for preaching is not that good. I use Inspiration as my outliner, and my filesystem to organize. I just hate have copies of my files all over the place (firmly believe data should be stored once).
I’ve used TreePad (Business ed) in the past, but its aging as well, and too many flavors now. Like I’ve said before, I just can’t seem to like General Knowledge Base (although its got the features I like). And as much as I keep looking at SQLnotes (or whatever its called now) - it’s too steep a learning curve for me (My life is thinking/writing - maybe its too much).
Anyways, my search continues for something that could best be described as WordPad, with Word’s metadata - only easily accessible - built around an outliner.
DaXiong
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Feb 19, 2008 at 09:59 PM
DaXiong wrote:
>Anyways,
>my search continues for something that could best be described as WordPad, with
>Word’s metadata - only easily accessible - built around an outliner.
DaXiong,
I’m sure you’ve probably already checked these programs out, but just in case you have not, it sounds as if one of these two might meet your needs:
MyInfo - Which has tagging of individual notes, which can be arranged in an outline. (http://www.milenix.com)
WhizFolders - Allows you to add keywords to your notes, which also can be arranged in an outline. (http://www.whizfolders.com)
WhizFolders has the better editor—a better writing environment. But I find it somewhat awkward to use because of the multiple windows that appear on my computer.
Another possibility to consider is The Journal (http://www.davidrm.com), which is designed for journaling, but works well for all writing projects. It has a fairly sophisticated keywording system (I think the developer calls them “topics”) which allows you to apply a topic/keyword to specific sections of text.
Just some thoughts.
Steve Z.
Posted by DaXiong
Feb 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Steve Z.
Thanks for the feedback. I tried MyInfo years ago, didn’t really work the way I wanted to - just downloaded it to give it another look.
I agree with you about WhizFolders, too cluttered, and awkward.
I might have missed the writing features of TheJournal, it seemed more like a software diary keeper to me, not really what I was looking for. I’ll have to check it out.
DaXiong
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Feb 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM
DaXiong wrote:
>I might have missed the writing features
>of TheJournal, it seemed more like a software diary keeper to me, not really what I was
>looking for. I’ll have to check it out.
DaXiong,
The Journal has two types of “database”: The dated file, which automatically creates dated entries arranged by month and date; and a “looseleaf” file, which basically is a two-pane outliner.
Steve Z.