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Posted by bigspud
Jun 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM

The Mac version of the iOS original is painfully true to the original mobile interface elements, except,

with an infinitely zoomable vector canvas, drawing tools AND embedded documents into its fold, its pretty amazing on the desktop. It’s been improved a lot recently! It came to mind as an option to a discussion I saw on this forum of Collectedthought and its supposed strengths.

I’d never have discovered the notion that visual/zoom compression of information was such a powerful way to create a mental recall powerhouse! It’s thanks to this forum introducing me to treesheets that I discovered such handy tools!

I’d love to find more of the type of outliner that handles zooming in directly on the information to build out its structure.

zoomnotesx seems to be unique that in that zoomable canvas, documents and sub-documents can then be embedded.

Treesheets and ZoomNotesX are still pretty unique offerings. Do you seasoned pros know of others?

regards,
wade

Posted by bigspud
Jun 29, 2016 at 10:16 AM

I suppose Realtimeboard is pretty close, with a different niche. It’s getting some nice features in the last 6 months too.

Posted by Paul Korm
Jul 1, 2016 at 09:10 AM

I suppose in a way you could say that TheBrain has a sort of “infinite” zoom. Thoughts (notes, in TheBrain’s parlance) can have an endless chain of children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and on and on. Thoughts can also link to any number of parents, siblings, nieces up and down the hierarchy. This is not at all similar to ZoomNote’s canvas, but offers similar possibilities from an information perspective.

Posted by Hugh
Jul 1, 2016 at 12:31 PM

Flying Logic 3 (http://flyinglogic.com). Not an exact analogue of the applications described above and without a traditional outliner equivalent, but a way of graphically expressing zoomable relationships that allows arithmetic evaluation. In the past I and others have used it for laying out fictional plots.

Posted by bigspud
Jul 5, 2016 at 10:22 PM

Thanks for the input men.
I thank you for your suggestions. I’ve never looked closely at FlyingLogic until now.

I take your point that Thebrain plex is able to be manipulated almost infinetly. I suppose the difference is that it references the information with thought ‘placeholders’ over making the information the reference itself. The references are text symbolic references and finite in their scope. What do I do if I need to reference areas of an image in Thebrain that contain the information I need to use? How many information and curation panes do I need to have open to make those symbols reference information further afield? a few. I really like Thebrain. Textual symbolic links might be better serviced by a wiki hyperlink,and the spatial by mindmap. Thebrain plex really has next to nil information on it! it can be myopic in scope, and relies on a purely biological mental curation schema to provide structure to how those symbolic references are used. Sure, the larger views of the plex can be rewarding, but then the mental requirements to behold all the symbolisms and recall actual information contained within gets extreme. At times it adds load to the manipulation of the information contained within, without adding value to that information. Proximity of thoughts is limited to a subject-child-becoming-subject. Can a circular reference even be made without jump thoughts?

It’s not that I’m making a rant against it, or claiming it isnt extremely powerful. Thebrain is my daily workplace. The information in a picture isnt linear. Nor should it be transmuted to something like that if a practical dissemination of that information is required. But annotation outlines arent of any depth in the information marketplace. spatial proximity outlines over linear container outlines are just so USEABLE when needing to introduce other people to our information curation space, without explaining the symbols of our mental discipline.
Sorry for the rant, I’m on holidays without much to keep me occupied..

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