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Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Jan 25, 2008 at 07:10 PM
Thanks for the kind words Daly. I think the answer is that it is so easy to combine a simple tree control with MS rich-text control. You then instanly get a 2-pane outliner, like zillion others. Kind of a school-type project. Then, one adds extra features. A few become significant (the ones we all know).
Just posted here before reading this thread:
http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/589/35
Posted by Cassius
Jan 26, 2008 at 07:46 AM
RE Maple: I gave up on Maple because each successive version made it harder to open older files in the new version. I think with Version 6, I first had to open EACH file separately in ver. 5.3, export it in a particular format and then open the exported file in ver. 6.
With respect to multiple tabs, or lack thereof in Guide: I haven’t tried it, but many such programs can have more than one file open by opening a second file by double-clicking its name in its containing folder, rather than opening the file from within the program.
-c
Posted by Christoph
Jan 26, 2008 at 02:22 PM
Cassius wrote:
>With respect to multiple tabs, or lack thereof in Guide: I haven’t
>tried it, but many such programs can have more than one file open by opening a second
>file by double-clicking its name in its containing folder, rather than opening the
>file from within the program.
The question is whether the files are opened within the same program instance, or another instance is running in parallel, consuming additional memory etc. Also, switching between different windows is not so easy as switching between tabs. That’s why tabs were introduced into modern GUIs and browsers. For me, tabbed views are a must have in any note keeping tool.
Posted by Cassius
Jan 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Christoph wrote:
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>The question is whether the files are opened within
>the same program instance, or another instance is running in parallel, consuming
>additional memory etc. Also, switching between different windows is not so easy as
>switching between tabs. That’s why tabs were introduced into modern GUIs and
>browsers. For me, tabbed views are a must have in any note keeping tool.
>
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Most of these programs are rather small in size. Also, in one window, one can switch between tabs by a mouse click on a tab, or by CTRL-TAB. If there are 2 windows, one can click on the task bar or by ALT-TAB. Not much difference.
-c
Posted by Christoph
Jan 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Cassius wrote:
>Most of these programs are rather small in size. Also, in one window,
>one can switch between tabs by a mouse click on a tab, or by CTRL-TAB. If there are 2
>windows, one can click on the task bar or by ALT-TAB. Not much difference.
YMMV, but for me it makes still a big difference. First, I’m not sure if most of these programs really have a small memory footprint. But most of all, my windows task bar is already cramped with all other apps, and there is no natural order. Tabs are nicely arranged and titled, always in the same order, and already opened for me when the program is started. It’s just simpler. Your argument would principally also apply to web browsers or editors, where people prefer having tab support, too. And in note taking apps they make even more sense - they resemble traditional tab cards and give me an additional “dimension” so that I don’t need to cram everything into one tree.Honestly, I think the tab support was the ingredient that made “KeyNote” so popular even until today.