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Posted by Derek Cornish
Feb 26, 2008 at 06:36 PM
Susanne wrote:
>And yes, I am aware of the fact that UltraRecall will allow you to at least
>decide what Folder or item to assign a new clipping to as well - and, while I really like
>the feature rich UltraRecall (and I do use it, if only for limited Purposes) getting
>information into UR ist just t o o s l o w. Loading a web page may take 10 Seconds for WR or
>Surfulater - the same page takes up to 45 seconds in UR - the first page of the day can take
>up to 1,5 minutes!. Same Notebook, same day. That is just prohibitive.
>
Thanks for cutting to the chase on the issues of speed and flexibility. (Beats my earlier stream-of-consciousness ramblings.)
There is no doubt that Surfulater is catching up with WR. Not there yet, though.
Incidentally, and talking about speed, I’ve complainined from time to time here about the slowness of WR’s start-up speed from cold, whether using the browser plug-ins or firing up the main program. Recently I realised to my embarrassment, however, that this was largely because I was loading five enormous archives - the products of years of using ContentSaver/WR - every time I ran the program. Simply unloading the ones I don’t use often (equivalent to NOT loading every Zoot database I have when I run Zoot) cured the problem.
I mention this because it’s so easy to make hasty judgements about software when the problem is a user one :-).
Derek
Posted by Susanne
Feb 26, 2008 at 07:45 PM
Derek Cornish wrote:
>Thanks for cutting to the chase on the issues of speed and flexibility.
Thank YOU Derek, for believing me. After having read a number of seemingly slightly irritated replies on the UR Forum to complaints about speed (it must be the pc, configuration, wrong commands… whatever), I don’t even want to try and bring it up there, I just look for alternative products. And yet, that is too bad, because, UR really is a very powerful product…... oh well,
BTW: now that I have started posting here, I hope I know when to stop/shut up again ;-)
Susanne
Posted by Derek Cornish
Feb 27, 2008 at 08:36 PM
Susanne wrote:
>BTW: now that I have
>started posting here, I hope I know when to stop/shut up again ;-)
>
>Susanne
It is quite addictive, isn’t it? No stop rules needed (or heeded) here. People just run out of energy or ideas, and threads naturally tail off into silence…:-)
Derek
Posted by Ken Ashworth
Feb 27, 2008 at 09:55 PM
Susanne wrote:
>... After having read a number of
>seemingly slightly irritated replies on the UR Forum to complaints about speed (it
>must be the pc, configuration, wrong commands… whatever), I don’t even want to try
>and bring it up there, I just look for alternative products. And yet, that is too bad,
>because, UR really is a very powerful product…... oh well,
Yes, it is difficult to understand where this slowdown with UR web capture is coming from - I think that part of it stems from UR having to download the entire page to a temp location before sending it into UR proper, but even with UR configured to use the IE cache any speed increase is barely perceptible.
Even with everything sitting in the cache, after just loading the page in your browser, it’s as if UR needs to reload the page just to be sure that something hasn’t changed in the few seconds between the original loading of the page and making the decesion to send it to UR.
There’s something in the UR web capture workflow that needs addressing but I’ll be danged if I know what it is.
‘Course, on the other hand, I have experienced some pretty speedy captures but these are mostly from pages that are predominately text.
Posted by Thomas
Feb 27, 2008 at 11:24 PM
UR was quick enough for me when it comes to speed (generally, don’t remember if there were some exceptions). However occasionally it just didn’t import the page at all. At other times, it was importing to the different database than the one I had currently active (I kept more databases open, but it shall import to the active one). Though it all works now that I have ceased using the Database toolbar and loading more databases.