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Posted by Dr Andus
Apr 24, 2016 at 11:12 PM
Many thanks for all the suggestions. I did check most of them out, but for the time being I’ve decided to trial the aforementioned system using MindMup 1.0 (as opposed to 2.0, which doesn’t seem to be fully featured yet).
What appeals to me about MindMup is its minimalism and ease of use, and that I can set it to open a file directly from Google Drive automatically as I launch Chrome every morning, regardless of which machine I’m using, and thus it reminds me to review it regularly.
There is an internal MindMup extension called “Straight Lines,” which, if you enable it, uses straight lines to connect the nodes from left to right towards the single “goal” node, making it look like a kind of a fishbone diagram.
@jaslar
Indeed, Freeplane could be a good choice if I didn’t need the cross-platform availability on my Chromebooks.
@Paul
Yes, Goalscape is interesting. I like the idea that it’s a zero sum game out of 100%, so it forces you to balance work-family-leisure. But I really wanted to try this fishbone shape first, to see if I can use it as a kind of a reverse decision tree, to eliminate projects and tasks that don’t contribute to the ultimate goal(s), by tracing direct lines of impact.
I might have to look into TheBrain again. But for now I like the 2D simplicity of MindMup for this.
@Alexander
Would you still have a link for that article?
MindMeister does seem to be able to do what I was after, it’s just something about its look and feel that eventually swayed me towards MindMup again.
@mnf
Comapping does look pretty good, but I’m actually looking for a right-to-left hierarchy, and I wasn’t able to reverse that in Comapping.
Posted by Bernhard
Apr 25, 2016 at 06:59 AM
Maybe FlyingLogic could be a candidate. There are different layout options to choose from (Left to Right, Right to Left, Top to Bottom, Bottom to Top).
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Apr 25, 2016 at 05:45 PM
Dr Andus wrote:
>Many thanks for all the suggestions. I did check most of them out, but
>for the time being I’ve decided to trial the aforementioned system using
>MindMup 1.0 (as opposed to 2.0, which doesn’t seem to be fully featured
>yet).
Though I find its name decidedly off-putting (I tend to pronounce it as mindmop) your positive comments prompted me to try it. Indeed it looks quite clean and capable. I was however unable to find how to set MindMup to build the map in the way that you suggest, i.e. to expand leftwards from the centre node.
>@jaslar
>
>Indeed, Freeplane could be a good choice if I didn’t need the
>cross-platform availability on my Chromebooks.
Interesting; I was about to comment that Freeplane is cross-platform as it is Java based. Then I realised that Chrome ‘censors’ Java; it makes sense that Chrome Os would do the same. Or it is simply that no JVM (Java Virtual Machine) exists for Chrome OS anyway.
>@Alexander
>
>Would you still have a link for that article?
I had searched for it in vain in my notes before my previous post. It is surely more than 8 years old, as since then I have been keeping such insights in Evernote.
I now searched on the web and was able to find the first post below and from there the second; neither is the one I remember, but they are both very similar. I suspect that it was Nick Duffill who had written the post in my memory:
http://mindmapping.typepad.com/the_mind_mapping_software/2006/12/funnel_timeline.html
http://duffill.blogs.com/beyond_crayons/2006/07/turning_systems.html
>MindMeister does seem to be able to do what I was after, it’s just
>something about its look and feel that eventually swayed me towards
>MindMup again.
Yes, it’s rather heavy looking. My own vote for online mindmapping services goes to mind42.com which however can’t do the left-to-right, at least not automatically.
Posted by Franz Grieser
Apr 25, 2016 at 06:02 PM
Hi.
Another option supporting fishbone charts and timelines is Xmind.
Available for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux.
Franz
Posted by Paul Korm
Apr 25, 2016 at 08:01 PM
FlyingLogic would indeed be worth looking at. Not only the layouts mentioned by @Bernhard, but we can build models in FlyingLogic and give “edge weights” to link lines (0 to 100), and “confidence” levels to nodes (also 0 to 100) and FlyingLogic will compute the probability of success for the end goal. And this is just one of numerous cases that can be modeled in FlyingLogic.
Bernhard wrote:
Maybe FlyingLogic could be a candidate. There are different layout
>options to choose from (Left to Right, Right to Left, Top to Bottom,
>Bottom to Top).