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Posted by Dr Andus
Aug 29, 2016 at 09:23 PM
jaslar wrote:
>How is Handyflowy on iOS? That is, is it
>just a more focused implementation of Workflowy, or does it have its own
>learning curve, such that you’re working with two very discrete
>programs?
I can only speak for the iPhone/iPod Touch version, as the one time I tried it on iPad Mini it didn’t seem to work as well.
But the iPhone/iPod version is far superior to the official WorkFlowy app.
It’s definitely a discrete program (though the underlying WorkFlowy features are the same).
I wouldn’t call it a “learning curve.” It’s more like patience to go through all the features and then customise the toolbar so that it only contains those features that are essential for your own daily use.
However, this can only be done in the Pro version, so one needs to pay up before being able to properly learn about and customise the product.
It is really the customisability of the toolbar that for me is HandyFlowy’s most useful feature (plus the ability to disable the editing mode for view-only operation, as pointed out by others earlier).
You could add one-click (or tap) functions to the toolbar e.g. for adding inline notes, indenting/outdenting and moving up/down outline items, duplicating nodes (with up to 1000 items max.), hiding the keyboard, completing a task, moving the cursor by one character or to the end of the line etc., etc.
So it all depends which operations you use the most frequently.
Posted by Dr Andus
Sep 5, 2016 at 08:26 AM
jaslar wrote:
Yes, I still summon CarbonFin Outliner for conference notes, article
>planning, travel journals, etc.
Another nice thing about using CarbonFin in conjunction with WorkFlowy is that the CarbonFin website lets you download an OPML version of each outline, and from there it’s a simple copy and paste into WorkFlowy (correctly pasting both nodes and inline notes).
Posted by frank.dg
Oct 23, 2016 at 02:15 PM
>I am not sure it’s to Workflowy’s advantage to have its official blog
>written primarily by someone whose objective appears to be to point out
>shortcomings in the software ware, and then present work-arounds. I’d
>rather hear from people who actually use the product without having to
>go through workaround hoops. Some of us just want to use Workflowy for
>what it can do, and have neither the time nor the inclination to try out
>various hacks.
>
>Daly
Hey Daly, Frank here. Just came across this discussion now… and I hopped onto the WorkFlowy blog to take a quick look see. Of the last 10 posts that I’ve written there (as of today), only 2 of them deal exclusively with “hacks”. One about a bookmarklet to automate the creation of a tag index… and the other to track changes in WorkFlowy (à la MS Word). I’m not sure there are any productivity tools out there at the moment which can do either of the two… so, in that sense, a lot of the hacks I do write about are not features that one would ordinarily see anywhere… or which one would even want to be baked into WorkFlowy itself.
I’ve posted weekly for exactly a year now. Some back-breaking hard work… and I must say that the bulk of it (8 out of the last 10 posts) is stuff that would be applicable to any WorkFlowy user, without having to rely on hacks. The last post I created… I put over 20 hours into it. The concept of QR codes can actually apply to any URL/ productivity app that uses URL’s (i.e. Evernote shared notes, etc.). There are also 2 interviews in the last 10 posts with WorkFlowy users who are using WorkFlowy to run their businesses.
What I think is happening is that some of the memorable posts - such as the HandyFlowy post… and hacks to include inline images, etc… those posts get quite a bit of attention… but for some reason, a few people have made similar comments about myself primarily posting about hacks… while in reality it’s emphatically quite the opposite.
I would invite you to take a look at a couple of the most recent posts (within the last 10) which are core WorkFlowy through and through:
1. The WorkFlowy keyboard shortcut challenge: https://blog.workflowy.com/2016/10/06/keyboard-shortcut-challenge/
I’m really quite proud of this one. It gives people the chance to practice WorkFlowy’s keyboard shortcuts with some fun dynamics. That post set me back about 15 hours to complete.
2. Kanban scheduling in WorkFlowy
https://blog.workflowy.com/2016/09/15/daily-schedule/
This is productivity 101.
3. “Ghost Bullets” and Completed Items Bring Focus to Writers and Translators
https://blog.workflowy.com/2016/09/01/writers-and-translators/
This post is WorkFlowy to its core with no hacks. Just a streamlining of one’s writing WorkFlowy.
4. 4 Pretty Useful Things You Can do With Shared WorkFlowy Lists
https://blog.workflowy.com/2016/08/24/shared-list-use-cases/
Three quarters of this post is dedicated to things one can to with shared WorkFlowy lists without any “hacks”. The last quarter expands on an (optional) Stylish hack.
Anywho… you’re talking to someone who finds incredible worth in the stripped-down WorkFlowy that we get right out of the box… and most of the posts I write come out with some pretty darn useful tips and tricks for just that. I’ve written a book full of WorkFlowy-centric stuff… and the posts have been quite prolific. In the first couple of month I was doing 2 posts a week… and due to time constraints (I do this voluntarily), I knocked it down to one post a week.
You’ll also glean a lot of useful information in the comments section of each post from the WorkFlowy community itself… and, in fact, many of the hacks have been the creation of the WorkFlowy community itself… tools that spring from ordinary users like myself who have a need and find a way to make it a reality… many of whom would be the first to say that they wouldn’t want these hacks to become actual native WorkFlowy features.
In many posts I have invited people to write me about their ideas and suggest content for future posts. You’re more than welcome to hit me up at:
frankman777@gmail.com
Cheers!
Frank
Posted by Luhmann
Oct 31, 2016 at 02:35 AM
Frank’s posts are useful and informative. I don’t think anything bad can be said about them. However, I find it disappointing that the WorkFlowy Design blog on Medium hasn’t been updated since its initial two posts in May, and that other than Frank’s posts there is hardly any news from the Workflowy team.
Posted by Jan S.
Nov 1, 2016 at 05:10 AM
For me, the main problem with workflowy is that they have a stupid freemium model. Premium users are basically paying for the free users bandwith. That’s the case with a lot of apps. But workflowy takes their customers money every month and doesn’t develop the app further. To this day you cannot access the website from a mobile browser for example. There are not enough export options etc.
If their tool is as popular as they claim with all the success stories and companies using workflowy, they should make a lot of money and maybe invest some of it in development. User side JavaScript or CSS tweaks don’t count. I don’t think that it is currently worth the 60€ for a year.