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Posted by GV Fanatic
May 14, 2017 at 10:33 AM
This is a great site and I, as a Crimper, have read it for years.
I used Grandview for many years Lastly I used it on a XP laptop and before that on an NT desktop system. . I have dos GV on my Win 8.1 desktop drive but it will not execute to a full screen and is not readable to copy my files or create files.
I think your GV 1 for windows is a great idea. Thank you. I downloaded and unzipped and unblocked as instructed but when executed GV for windows the screen came up with a note from windows that GV could not operate at full screen (it was the same tiny size). It would not go full screen and the screen was still too small to work with.
Perhaps it was because I loaded it in the wrong folder or because I had my old dos GV on a second drive and the system decided it was the same as the new version.
When you execute your GV for windows is it confined to a small screen? Any advise as to what drive and folder to load with this new GV for windows? I will also try removing the dos GV from the other drive.
Again thanks so much for your work. I will be thrilled if I can use GV once again and also convert my existing files.
Posted by DBarr
Jun 19, 2019 at 10:54 PM
Dee, I just wanted to thank you so much for your work to make GrandView available again. That software helped me write research papers and organize materials for many years and I have truly missed it. Its value comes from letting me enter many ideas, topics to cover, facts to include, etc. in whatever order comes to mind. (Almost like brainstorming.) After getting everything down, GV allows me to quickly organize topics hierarchically and come up with a logical grouping and order of presentation. Then this structure naturally becomes a series of sentences, with topics developed in the correct order. I wish my mind worked in this way to begin with, but it does not.
Your software development effort I greatly appreciate. This was clearly not a couple of hours of work and your generosity in sharing the results with the rest of the world needs to be recognized. Please know that you have significantly helped one person for certain, and surely thousands of others who were fortunate enough to be around when IBM/MS DOS was introduced and enjoyed the creative efforts required to be productive when 64K of RAM was an upgrade and applications had to be efficient and useful. (I got hooked originally on ThinkTank.)
[Now my work involves solving problems on adiabatic quantum annealing computers, where the state of the art is reminiscent of computing in the 1950s.]
Thank you again, Dee, for making life better for many of us,
D Barr
Posted by Dee
Mar 3, 2020 at 03:30 AM
GV Fanatic:
I apologize for not seeing your message until now. I don’t check this site very often.
I have Windows 10 with a display resolution of 1920 x 1080, and my GrandView window is large and clear, filling 85% of the height of my display.
You can make the window bigger by pressing [Win]+F12, and make it smaller by pressing [Win]+F11.
You can also switch to and from a semi-fullscreen mode by pressing [Alt][Enter].
These and more keyboard shortcuts and other hints can be found in the “vDos Getting Started” PDF file in the “vDos-lfn” folder.
If that doesn’t work, you could try setting up a different version of vDos or vDosPlus. See http://vdosplus.org for more info.
I hope that helps.
DBarr:
Thank you for your kind and generous words. It is gratifying to know it is being used and appreciated. :)
Posted by jaslar
Mar 3, 2020 at 04:49 PM
How cool! After spending a whole day over the weekend with Linux running DOSBOX, PC-Outline, and KAMAS, I am unsurprised to say that everything in this GV file works fine with this setup, too. including shift keys. DOS outliners in Linux!
And I see in GV that there’s an “undo last delete,” which is not quite the same thing as a general Undo button, but it’s helpful!
Posted by jaslar
Mar 5, 2020 at 12:24 AM
I even figured out how to make the DOS outliners go full screen. Grandview is remarkable. @Stephen Zeoli, you wrote than you could display the documents “inline”—but how? It seems like this would be under Layout, but that option wasn’t clear to me. Tips?
So I spent a few hours last night messing with DOS outliners on Linux. Thinktank, KAMAS, PC-Outline, Grandview. Kind of a history of outlining in the DOS world. Grandview is clearly WAY better than PC-Outline, which makes sense, since it was an iteration by the same developer (John Friend).
I admit that there’s a deep attraction to going back to these remarkably focused, elegant, and powerful apps. They wind up, in a full screen mode, being a true distraction-free thinking space. On the other hand, good outlining requires access to other info. While it’s not hard to jump out of the dosbox-x environment to grab a contract, a bit of info on the web, or whatever, getting that information back into the emulated outliner is a problem. It’s possible to export/import in both directions. But it’s work. Those old programs just weren’t designed for graphical interfaces and the Internet.
Is Friend still around? I wonder what he uses these days.
At any rate, I marvel that I can use a 7 year old computer, running Ubuntu 18.04 (free), and in literally minutes, set up and run these classic programs, also for free. Computing is so much cheaper and more versatile than it used to be.
My question: besides our PC-Outline user, who continues to actively use old programs in emulation? And how do you integrate your work?