Well, okay, maybe not quite, but Sorting Thoughts (sortingthoughts.de) is a very intriguing app with desktop versions for MacOS and Windows, and a nice, simple iOS version. It thrives on relationships (you can have multiple parents, it encourages tagging, and it lists links to/from notes). The iOS version is encrypted. And an impending version 2.0 desktop release will also offer encryption and syncing with the mobile version (the Android version is, alas, being dropped); currently, the desktop versions run on Java and don't sync with the mobile ones.

It also supports attachments, a nested navigation tree and various other sensible features, without being too irritatingly complex.

I've installed the iOS version on various devices, and have also acquired the desktop versions (for both Mac and Windows); of course they don't all talk to each other yet, but I'm looking forward to version 2.0 (the developer assures me he's working hard on it).

Apart from that: a very Happy and Successful New Year to everybody!
Bill

MadaboutDana wrote:

Well, okay, maybe not quite

Actually it reminds me more of TreeProjects (http://personaldatabase.org/screenshots/general_1.png and OutWiker (http://jenyay.net/uploads/Outwiker/English/outwiker_1.8.0_01_en.png

Happy New Year to you as well!

Yes, in basic terms they're both very similar (especially Outwiker), but Sorting Thoughts goes further in its support of cross-linking (and tracing of links), and also its remarkably powerful project management features (a project features a GANTT chart view that automatically takes account of any tasks (= sub notes) created under that project, including start and end dates).

It's a peculiar app, and won't come into its own until it's capable of syncing between devices (and hopefully abandoned Java!), but it shows a lot of promise!

The tags view is also very capable, although I'd like to see support for nested tags (like 2Do, for example, and - of course - ConnectedText).

MadaboutDana wrote:

(a project features a GANTT chart view that automatically takes
account of any tasks (= sub notes) created under that project, including
start and end dates).

That bit reminds me of Mindsystems Amode V2 (may it rest in peace)...
https://youtu.be/so0Q3XTkXsg?t=15s

Another quirky one that comes to mind is (the sadly still-born) Vis-a-Wiki:
http://marko-editor.com/images/vis-a-wiki-screen-mac-1.png

MadaboutDana wrote:

Sorting Thoughts goes further in its support of cross-linking (and
tracing of links)

BTW, what do you mean by "tracing of links"? How is that implemented?

So, if I'm reading this correctly, syncing requires paying for a monthly subscription on top of paying for the application. That also means the ability to sync is tied to whether or not the developer stays in business.

That alone is enough for me to take a pass on this one.

Though, I did play with a bit and even as a stand-alone desktop app, I'm underwhelmed. Why do I need to go to a separate "link" tab in order to click (actually double-click) on the links? Every other app of this type lets you just click on the link in the "document view" or whatever you want to call it.

It's also waay too mouse-driven for my liking. I can't seem to find a way to create links other than clicking the icon and using the pop-up Window? At this point, using double brackets to link is ingrained in me and while it's a small thing, I really don't like the extra step. More and more, I'm finding it's the small things that factor into my decision to keep using or not use an app.

Yes, fair point, guv; I agree that it makes little sense not to automatically link subtasks, for example (although they're shown in the "Info" pane for an individual item, as are parents); treating subtasks/subnotes as separate from links as such is a bit odd.

However, the developer is nice and responsive, so could perhaps be persuaded...