It could be that touch interfaces are by themselves the wrong audience for this group...but then it begs the question, where can people talk about outliners that have touch interfaces to begin with?

I just want to raise that question here since apps like Lumen Trails, Boximize, Curator are being highlighted in the App store (and I am in love with the app "Life Strategy" in Google Play Store) but I cannot seem to spot any discussion of it here from an interface standpoint.

Even e-mail organization, I use an app called Triage where you swipe up and down and it either archives or deletes the mail and in terms of psychological apps there is a set of apps in the app store called CBT, SportsPsych and Worry Box made by one developer that bears mentioning but once again, it is too quiet.

Well, I think most of us here are very happy to discuss any information management approach, and you'll find plenty of discussion of touch-based outliners here, too (OmniOutliner, Cloud Outliner, MagicalPad et al.)

The ones you mention are certainly interesting. Boximize is more of a database app, I believe, and the same could be said of Lumen Trails, but both are fairly customisable. I suppose Curator is also a kind of database app (similar to others that have been discussed here like Together, Keep Everything and the other MacOS/iOS app whose name I always forget - all available as touch apps). But although the forum ostensibly focuses on outliners, database and other kinds of knowledge management apps have also been discussed at some length in various threads.

Life Strategy I don't know, but then I (deliberately) moved away from Android some time ago (although the emergence of CyanogenMod as a serious, privacy-focused OS is very interesting). As for the others you mention - it's true that we haven't spent a lot of time discussing e-mail clients that are also task organisers. And that's a rapidly growing field.

So it's good you raised these issues! Why not kick off a discussion of your own (by analysing the interface approach of e.g. Triage or Worry Box)? Or tell us more about Life Strategy and why you like it? You'll soon find that people join in.

A community is built by members' contributions. And when members tell people about new apps that haven't been discussed much (or indeed at all) yet, other members rush off and find out more about them. And as the discussions grow, the community grows. So don't be shy - just tell us about the apps that interest you.

True...true...I will probably post a topic next week.

Sometimes (well often times) I find that I rarely get the patience to make my own topic only to see it get few replies and that, nowadays, I rather make sure that someone else is interested first. (even if this post only got 1 reply).

Hi Foolness,

count me as #2 though I do not use Android :-)
But Triage sounds too good.

And I am pretty sure that there are many others interested in your experience with these apps.

I use an Android phone and tablet. I've paid for SimpleMind (mind mapper), Outliner Pro (whose interface seems to lose the big picture, although it syncs with Treepad on the desktop), Grapevine (a single pane outliner that is quite good). I also use Simplenote for casual writing and note taking. Android seems to work best, for me, with an extremely stripped down UI. And even on my tablet (Nexus 7) the screen doesn't seem big enough for mind mapping.

So yes, I'm interested in your explorations.

LOL -- kind of a "save-the-topic" approach to forums, similar to those odd "save-the-date" announcements for weddings

Foolness wrote:

Sometimes (well often times) I find that I rarely get the patience to
make my own topic only to see it get few replies and that, nowadays, I
rather make sure that someone else is interested first.

I've resolutely abandoned Android since Samsung stopped updating my lovely Galaxy Note less than 12 months after I bought it (since then, I have installed CyanogenMod, but don't really use it much at all).

I did acquire a number of rather good Android outliners, but nothing so good that it made me miss the platform.

I have been experimenting with some of these combined task management-plus-email apps, but so far not found anything that really rings my bell (i.e. is superior to Apple Mail). Apple Mail, I hear you say - I thought you used Airmail, Bill? Well yes, I did, but Apple Mail on El Capitan is such an improvement over the old Apple Mail that I've started using it again. Very smooth, very fast, and appears to have stopped that irritating "lose the mail, find the mail, lose the mail again" behaviour it used to indulge in all the time.

Meanwhile, apart from Airmail, I have played with: Unibox, Inky, Mail Pilot, Postbox and Opera Mail. Of them all, my favourite is Opera Mail - alas, more or less discontinued as a separate app; I think it was last updated in 2013, although it still runs perfectly well. All the others were irritating in a myriad of little ways. Some of them are very ingenious (notably Unibox and Mail Pilot), but none of them are as fully featured as Airmail or Apple Mail. Thing is, even though the latter don't have built-in task management, they make it incredibly easy to transfer emails to the main task management apps.

And of course one doesn't tend to play around with email apps as much as outliners, because they're one of the backbone elements of the workspace, involving a lot of setup time, a lot of data and a lot of inconvenience if you do decide to change over. But I remain interested in these things. I haven't played with any iOS mail apps because Apple Mail on iOS runs extremely well, in my view, and I don't want to waste space installing any more apps than I actually need, given I have a fairly sizeable music collection and quite a lot of office apps already on my various iDevices.

Just some thoughts to be going on with...

Cheers,
Bill

Foolness wrote:

I just want to raise that question here since apps like Lumen Trails,
Boximize, Curator are being highlighted in the App store (and I am in
love with the app "Life Strategy" in Google Play Store) but I cannot
seem to spot any discussion of it here from an interface standpoint.

I had never heard of these apps. Admittedly, it's been a long while since I actually went app-hunting in the Google Play, and now Microsoft, stores. At the time I hadn't found any information manager which IMHO made good use of a powerful stylus functionality such as Galaxy Note's--or even plain mutlitouch functionality for that matter.

Just to get an analogy of the powerful touch paradigm I would like to see, check out the videos found here http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig_1_3 Such tools are already changing the sound/music industry; I expect that eventually something equivalent will come out for the information management world--if it isn't aready out there and I have simply missed it.

Anyway, you've got my attention, and I'll certainly be checking out the tools recommended.