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Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 1, 2015 at 09:21 PM
A discussion on Hacker News about the pros and cons of Org-mode. Apparently there are some issues with version updates.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10629107
While I’m intrigued by the concept, I’m still unconvinced whether the amount of time required to learn it and fiddle with it would be worth it to me personally (productivity-wise).
At the moment the combination of Google Calendar, WorkFlowy, ConnectedText, WriteMonkey and Gingko pretty much takes care of most of my productivity, writing and notes database needs. I suppose Org-mode could replace the whole lot: but then I quite enjoy using these tools…
Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 1, 2015 at 09:25 PM
shatteredmindofbob wrote:
>That said, I’m not sure I can bring myself to recommend it, especially
>on CRIMP central here. See, the thing about Emacs is that you can do
>almost *anything* with it by making a few modifications. And for someone
>who is very likely to procrastinate by tinkering with app setups rather
>than doing the actual work…well, this feels almost dangerous.
Yup, that’s definitely something I’d be worried about, too.
Posted by shatteredmindofbob
Dec 3, 2015 at 08:39 PM
Alright, I believe that I, too, have now seen the light.
Sort of. At least, I’ve figured out how to make Org-Mode do what I want an outliner to do. In my case, I’ve always wanted to be able to just dump a whole lot of crap in, almost stream of consciousness writing then sort it out and make it coherent later.
The only downside is that to do it, *everything* needs to be a heading. Though, I suppose that’s not terribly different from say, WorkFlowy which functions by making everything a list item. But, at least as far as I can tell, sorting can be done much faster in Org-Mode. Also, it’s not a web app.
That said, I don’t see using it outside of straight outlining. And that’s fine, it’s easy enough to convert the Org outline to Markdown so I can turn it into a proper article in an editor I’m more comfortable with…one that doesn’t require hitting two or even three keyboard shortcuts to do what can be done with one in a dedicated writing app.
Posted by jaslar
Dec 6, 2015 at 07:55 AM
Another six hours spent on emacs. But I figured out how to find and install “packages” that allow for markdown-mode, preview (on Linux, I can’t find an easy way to do the preview on Windows), and with pandoc, a really remarkable ability from the command line of both operating systems to move files among org-mode, markdown, html, and odt.
Now there would really be no excuse not to actually write something. But the point is that files are now very portable in a way they weren’t before, and can be editing (because plain text) on any platform. That’s good, right?
Another nice trick: in emacs markdown mode, there’s no text folding/outlining, but you CAN navigate by headers easily.
Posted by Gorski
Dec 6, 2015 at 06:39 PM
jaslar wrote:
>Another nice trick: in emacs markdown mode, there’s no text
>folding/outlining, but you CAN navigate by headers easily.
This isn’t correct, at least in my installation. You can fold, unfold in markdown mode with tab or shift-tab, like with org mode.
And you you can move headings and accompanying text with Shift-Alt and the up and down arrow keys.