NoteCase question

Started by Tester on 9/3/2015
Tester 9/3/2015 9:41 pm
Marbux wrote in another thread very positive words about NoteCase Pro (see http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/5999/10

This made me yesterday to try the software.

And because you, Marbux, wrote:
Did I mention that I *really* like NoteCase Pro?
That's why I've assisted in its development as a volunteer for the
last four or five years.

I decided to ask you a perhaps silly question:

Is Notecase Pro (not) able to retain the formatting when coyping and pasting a text from an ordinary MS Word .doc? (It's an old version of Word: Word 2002.)

This is always the first action which I try when testing an outliner; and when such a software fails (or works in a complicated way) concerning this simple and fundamental action I usually do not even continue the test.

Many (not all) of the outliners succeed in doing the pasting more or less completely correct. Some have certain problems, e.g. with the correct line space or with tables etc.

But Notecase Pro was one of a few programs that retained (at least in my test) almost nothing of the original formatting. In the meantime I have uninstalled it again so that I cannot show you a screenshot. But for example tables were ignored completely (that means: they were not existing at all after pasting); or for some unknown reason the different color I have for certain sentences in the original document was adopted in Notecase Pro only for a part of such a sentence: after some letters (where the color was correct) all the following ones had the default color (black).

There was so much wrong (concerning formatting) that I would like to ask you - as an expert for this software - because of pure intereset: Did I make some mistake when copying and pasting (but which could it be?) or is Notecase Pro not fully compatible with MS Word?


Tester 9/3/2015 9:47 pm
Sorry for the mistakes in the above posting. (Unfortuntely this forum offers no possibility for editing a text. )
- Of course it should be "NoteCase" and not "Notecase" (as I wrote not only one but several times).
- And in the second to last line it should be "interest" and not "intereset".

yosemite 9/3/2015 9:51 pm
I don't think Notecase Pro supports tables in its notes...

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/notecase-pro/tJAIttzWv2o
jaslar 9/4/2015 1:43 am
True. You can link to the file - and clicking will open it - but you can't cut and paste the fully formatted file into an outline.
Marbux 9/4/2015 10:41 pm
I've forwarded a link to the post to Miro for a better answer than I have (I have never sullied the hard drives of any of my computers with the presence of MS Office). But preliminarily, NoteCase Pro can't do tables because of a years-old-bug in the GTK TextView library. The bug blocks having more than a single horizontal alignment in a line's display. So it also blocks columns, blockquotes (indented on both sides), and proper hanging indent of a list item. I've even offered to personally pay for a bug fix, but never got a response from any of the GTK developers.

If you have a test MS Word doc we could use to see if we can clear up other problems, please email it to me at marbux pine @ maple gmail oak com (subtract the trees). I'd also hope that we could get it to the point that the data in tables is not destroyed, perhaps formatting their rows as tab-delimited lines.

We've got a new release that should be published early next week, so it's too late to get this fixed during the current development cycle, but perhaps in the next (we release a new version roughly every two months).
Marbux 9/4/2015 10:45 pm
As a work-around for tables, you can take a screengrab of the table in its originating app, then paste the screengrab to NoteCase Pro.
Tester 9/5/2015 12:53 am
Thanks for your answers and especially thanks to Marbux for your interest in the matter.

Marbux wrote:
If you have a test MS Word doc we could use to see if we can clear up
other problems, please email it to me at marbux pine @ maple gmail oak
com (subtract the trees). I'd also hope that we could get it to the
point that the data in tables is not destroyed, perhaps formatting their
rows as tab-delimited lines.

I have extracted a small part of such a doc via copy and paste into a test MS Word doc. I think the excerpt contains most of my characteristic formatting details as table, different colors of font and sometimes of background, different font size (see the line before Nr. 2 of "Hand, die"), sometimes italic type (see Nr. 10 of "Hand, die"), bold type (the numbers) etc. I am not sure how to handle your email but I uploaded the MS Word doc here: http://enalexiko.pbworks.com/w/file/100127873/Hand.doc
In order to download it, simply click on the tab "Download" above the document's title "Hand.doc".

Marbux 9/5/2015 5:41 am
I heard back from Miro. He believes he has resolved the issue you found with colors and the fix should be in the new release that will hopefully be out by Wednesday. We're still talking about the issue with tables.

If you'd like to give direct feedback after retesting, you can contact Miro directly at support@ pine virtual-sky maple .com (subtract the trees).


Marbux 9/5/2015 5:44 am
By the way, Tester, thank you for the bug report. It helps a lot.
Tester 9/5/2015 1:16 pm
You are welcome, Marbux. Glad to see that my remarks were useful for you and Miro. :-)