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Posted by jperlman
Aug 12, 2015 at 11:33 PM
Treepad X Enterprise, has a php based search engine in the web export feature of the web pages… I think you can choose whether you want that search feature in your exported pages from that version of TreePad.
I don’t use treepad, though I have looked at it. But, that search feature in the web export is a nice feature.
Just passing along an observation.
-jperlman
Posted by Tester
Aug 13, 2015 at 12:28 AM
Thank you too, jperlman.
Yes, Treepad is one more program I had tested in the past. ;-) I liked the comfortable way in which you can arrange the appearance of the website. But overall Treepad was of no use for me, especially because it does not suppport Unicode. This applies to the X Enterprise version too.
They have also another project, called “TreePad UNI”. There (obviously *only* there) they plan(ned) Unicode support (see http://www.treepad.com/treepaduni/ ). And they write there that “This program will be available in the course of 2014”. Now we have August 2015 and “TreePad UNI” is still not available. ;-) And moreover they write: “Because we do not want to be overly ambitious, initial releases will not support the entire feature set of e.g. TreePad PLUS, such as images, tables, underlined hyperlinks, bullets, indents.”
Some of these features (especially tables) are of vital importance for me.
So Treepad is not an appropriate program for my needs.
Concerning the search feature of the X Enterprise version, it can be seen and tested for example here: http://www.treepad.com/docs/tpp/manual/
That’s their own Manual created with this version. The search field opens by clicking on the link “Search” at the bottom of the page.
Posted by Donovan
Aug 15, 2015 at 02:10 AM
As per MyInfo, Rightnote and its webbook feature, etc…
These are all great ideas in concept. They sound interesting and I have been looking for something similar. I actually love Schmid’s Notebook for Windows and wish there was a way to duplicate that look on the web. It seems it should be easy considering everything is its own file. But a programmer I am not.
My biggest question relating to the capabilities of all of these concepts is WHY don’t they offer online examples?
Something like—- “See a sample Rightnote Webbook Live on the Web” type a thing.
Notefrog was one of the first with this capability but, unfortunately, never took it to the next level and it looks very dated. But they have always had a sample to access from their website. An example is shown here: http://notewindow.com/frog/x/demostack.html
But why not have examples of these capabilities from MyInfo and Rightnote and other note applications with this feature? I would LOVE to see them!
Does anybody here have some addresses they could post of sample sites created with MyInfo or the RN webbook?
Thanks!
Posted by Tester
Aug 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM
Donovan wrote:
>[...] and wish there was a way to duplicate that look on the web.
Yes, that’s a good way to express it: a duplication of the desktop version’s user interface would be fine.
Donovan wrote:
>My biggest question relating to the capabilities of all of these
>concepts is WHY don’t they offer online examples?
>Something like—- “See a sample Rightnote Webbook Live on the Web” type
>a thing.
I miss it too for MyInfo and RightNote. Some other developers offer examples:
I already mentioned TreePad’s own manual. And here you can find a list with “Examples of Websites created with TreePad”: http://www.treepad.com/webgenerator/
There is an another software called “Web Idea Tree” (http://www.webideatree.com/) and they offer an extensive list with examples (not all are still active): http://www.webideatree.com/wit-websites/text/2a1a3a02-319.php
and
http://www.webideatree.com/wit-websites/text/Sites-plus-anciens.php
Maybe that “Web Idea Tree” is a good software but for me it looked a little bit too complicated (not so easy in handling as MyInfo, RightNote etc.). Moreover there were problems with Unicode when displaying sites (although they write that Unicode is supported). So I did not test this program more in detail.
Donovan wrote:
>But why not have examples of these capabilities from MyInfo and
>Rightnote and other note applications with this feature? I would LOVE to
>see them!
>Does anybody here have some addresses they could post of sample sites
>created with MyInfo or the RN webbook?
In the Internet I found one example for a website created with MyInfo:
http://naiadstudios.com/indexdf.html
(I did not really understand what it is about- ;-) But you can see the general structure of such a website.)
And what I can show you is my own website created with MyInfo. Essentially it is a German-Greek (and vice versa) dictionary.
At the moment I have published it in two versions with more or less the same content but in order to see some differences in speed and usability:
A) Here the conventional version with one document (= html file) for every keyword of the dictionary (at the moment about 13.000):
As you see, the site opens very slowly (about 30 seconds I would say) but then you have access to every keyword individually
http://enalexiko.bplaced.net/index.html/
B) In order to avoid the big delay I created a second version where all keywords are in only three documents (html files).
This site opens immediately but of course a delay will happen afterwards, when you try to open one of the three big documents (keywords with German letters A-K, with German letters L to Z and with Greek letters)
http://kompakt.bplaced.net/index.html/
Besides the delay the second shortcoming (in both versions) is the already discussed lack of a built-in search feature. Until now you have to use the search tools of your browser (e.g. via pressing F3). Hopefully this will change in the next upgrade of MyInfo but I do not know it.
Concerning RightNote I could not find specific examples in the Internet but you can get an idea how it looks like from this picture (I have taken it from http://alternativeto.net/software/rightnote/#). The concept is quite good I think:
http://abload.de/img/wb1xsp4x.jpg
1. In the bar are the buttons with the “pages” of your File/notebook, let’s the the chapters of what you would like to present (here: “Boot Camp”, “Features”, “More Features” etc.).
2. On the bottom of the tree you find a search field (filter) where you can search for the title of a certain note (= the items in the tree above). That’s extremely important and useful when you publish for example a dictionary where every note (document / tree item) represents an individual keyword. It works as “Search as you type”: When you start typing in the field, the appropriate notes appear in the tree above.
3. The big button “Search” in the bar offers you the possibility to make a full text search within all your notes and pages. (Not so important for someone who publishes a dictionary but surely quite useful for publishers or users with other needs.)
I have tested the webbook feature of RightNote by myself and can confirm that all looks and works as described above. This was the appearance of my own test webbook:
http://abload.de/img/wb29aqkb.jpg
The most important page in this case is called “Wörterbuch” (= Dictionary) with the list of the keywords in the tree. (I tested it only with a few keywords). And I created two other additional pages (called “Grammatik [= Grammar] and “Links”).
There is again the search field (filter) for the keywords on the bottom of the tree (not shown on the picture) and of course the full search button in the bar.
Generally the webbook of RightNote is a nice concept I think, even with some shortcomings (which could be easily eliminated, I think).
Posted by MadaboutDana
Aug 17, 2015 at 02:12 PM
Some very interesting examples here, I must say.
There are some interesting options on the Mac, too, such as Growly Notes.
But if I was publishing a database as a website, I’d want a search engine in there. Which definitely limits the options! On the Mac, I can only think of DEVONthink Pro Office.
It does a great job of hosting an entire database on a website, complete with search function; the interface is similar to the classic three-pane browser interface immortalised by Outlook.
But it is, alas, limited; in particular, it doesn’t highlight search terms or allow you to move between them, very unlike the desktop version.
On the other hand, it does allow (assuming you give permission) users to upload documents to the server. They’re automatically stored in the Inbox. Clearly it’s optimised for single-user administration, but with some flexibility.
Cheers,
Bill