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Posted by JBfrom
Oct 25, 2011 at 06:38 AM
Yes indeed it does: http://orgmode.org/manual/The-spreadsheet.html
Personally I use the tables feature only for exporting clocked work data.
I’ve accepted that right now nobody who doesn’t already use Org-mode can possibly be convinced to try Cyborganize.
I must commune with my fellow nerds.
Posted by jimspoon
Oct 26, 2011 at 05:11 AM
I like the way very old threads can be come back to life here. This was a good one. Enjoyed reading through it.
Choosing an information manager is a big decision ... you don’t want to invest a lot of time learning a program unless you have an idea that the program is THE one you want to put your life into. Like Alexander, I have Infoqube thinking it might be the one, but I haven’t found the time to really get deeply into it. Org-Mode also intrigues me but it seems even more daunting.
jim
Posted by JBfrom
Oct 26, 2011 at 06:36 AM
The nice thing about Emacs Org-mode is there’s never a limit to the value you can get out of investing more time into learning it.
The reward/learning curve goes flat on most programs, and you’re left fiddling with frustrating hacked-up workarounds.
With Emacs, every year you get better. It’s like having a symbiotic brain pet. Personal customization is literally unlimited.
For a starting point, get a windows keybind distro and just use the basic outlining functions within a single file.
Posted by Chris Thompson
Oct 26, 2011 at 09:21 PM
I haven’t posted in a while, but I’m also an Org-mode user.
I don’t think that Org-mode is any harder to learn than old-style DOS apps like Grandview, particularly if you rely on the menu system rather than trying to memorize keystrokes. (Remember, the old DOS apps often tended to have different shortcuts for cut and paste and things like that… often very counterintuitive ones like Wordperfect’s shift-F7 to exit… it wasn’t until graphical environments that common keyboard shortcuts tended to be standardized.)
I also find that Org-mode does have that “Zen” simplicity that DOS tools used to have. Once you go fullscreen, there are so many fewer distractions than most applications… it’s a nice writing environment. And it’s unbelievably powerful and customizable if you decide that you need something out of the ordinary.
That said, I don’t use Org-mode for everything. Although it is capable of building personal wikis, I prefer Dokuwiki for a variety of reasons. ConnectedText 5 is fantastic too, and a good alternative (it does some things better than DW and other things DW does better). I’ve never really understood the point of Tiddlywiki… anything it can do would probably be best just left in Org-mode, and if one needs a full-blown wiki, why not go with a full-blown wiki? Also, while the underlying calendaring features of Org-mode are perfect, its lack of a graphical calendar view makes it more suited for task management IMHO. (Yes, ongoing iCalendar export is an option, but then it’s not perfectly integrated and you don’t get alarms.)
—Chris
JBfrom wrote:
>The nice thing about Emacs Org-mode is there’s never a limit to the value you can get out
>of investing more time into learning it.
>
>The reward/learning curve goes flat on
>most programs, and you’re left fiddling with frustrating hacked-up workarounds.
>
>
>With Emacs, every year you get better. It’s like having a symbiotic brain pet.
>Personal customization is literally unlimited.
>
>For a starting point, get a
>windows keybind distro and just use the basic outlining functions within a single
>file.
Posted by JBfrom
Oct 27, 2011 at 01:34 AM
“I?ve never really understood the point of Tiddlywiki? anything it can do would probably be best just left in Org-mode, and if one needs a full-blown wiki, why not go with a full-blown wiki?”
TiddlyWiki is indeed not a good choice for the traditional use case of a wiki - a collaborative knowledge management platform. However, the Cyborganize T1 repository is not a traditional use case.
I chose it for several reasons, after looking at DokuWiki, ConnectedText, and many others:
1. Easy local installation
2. Blazing fast navigation
3. High extensibility
4. With plugins, can avoid almost all markup and write with TinyMCEditor, which copies directly to WordPress.
5. Easy to setup automatic hierarchical navigation
6. Handles all forms of media and files
7. Minor WikiWords annoyances can be patched over
8. 100% cross platform with zero porting or emulation… can be carried on a USB
9. Fluid desktop environment is handy for writers
Markup was the main issue. It is simply impossible as a writer to deal with the challenges of composition while constantly interrupting oneself to write formatting code. And it is impractical to retype existing documents just to get them into a wiki.