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Posted by Mark Wolf
Dec 25, 2010 at 08:27 PM
keiffer wrote:
>Hi Mark,
>I searched my hard drives and came up with these two
>files:
>PocketThinkerStandAloneSetup 1v5v29.exe that is
>1.9M
>PocketThinkerPPCSetup155.exe that is 172k
>I don’t know if they are the last
>version released.
>I know the desktop version works but don’t now about the
>PPC
>version.
>
>Are they what you are looking for?
>
>Keith
Hi Keith,
I have PocketThinkPCStandalone version 1.5.12, but the PPC version 1.5.5 would be an update to my current version (1.5.2), so I’d love to get it. I’m not sure how that would work, though. By the way, I also have PocketThinkerPCFull version 1.5.12, which includes the link to Outlook, if you’d like it. Let me know.
Thanks,
Mark
Posted by Cassius
Dec 31, 2010 at 12:08 AM
Note to Pierre:
I just reread the Pocket Thinker thread. If you are still interested in GrandView, I may be able to help. In particular, I can send you a list of the files in my GrandView program folder and tell you what most of them are for. I may be able to do more than that. Let me know and if you wish, we can do this more directly in case you wish me to send you files.
Posted by ntspec
Oct 22, 2011 at 07:26 PM
copied from another post . . .
Posted by Mark
Dec 16, 2007 at 02:42 AM
If anyone?s interested in trying out Grandview, here?s how to do it on Windows XP with the version you can download at http://vetusware.com/download/Symantec%20Grandview%202.0/?id=3631, as mentioned previously on this thread.
That zip file has three strange files in it called gv printer.IMA, gv program.IMA and gv utilitie.IMA
The files are image files. You can extract them with WinImage, found at http://www.winimage.com/download.htm. I used version 6.1 based on something I read while Googling. Don?t know if it would work with a later version. It?s shareware, so you can use it this one time without actually buying WinImage.
I extracted all the files into a single directory. Then I opened up a DOS command window and ran install.exe from that directory. I chose to install it into a directory on the C: drive, although it gives you the option of installing it elsewhere. The installer complains about not finding some sample files that aren?t included with the download, but you can skip those. I also skipped the printer installation, since I don?t happen to have any 15-year-old printers lying around.
You need to run the program from within the DOS command window by navigating to the install directory. If you just try to click on the shortcut for the program or by clicking on GV.EXE from within Windows it will complain about an invalid start directory and instruct you to check your pif file.
More than 15 years after first reading someone rave about Grandview, I finally got to see it for myself. It truly must be Christmas. I didn?t play with it too long, but everything seemed to work, and I even exported a few test outlines to a text file, which worked fine. I do like the way you can show and hide full documents in the outline with just a keystroke. Why are such simple, obvious and useful features so rarely emulated?
Posted by JBfrom
Oct 24, 2011 at 03:57 PM
Thanks. I tried to figure this out myself but failed.
Outlinersoftware.com: All answers are contained herein.
Posted by JBfrom
Oct 24, 2011 at 04:05 PM
“As a single-pane outliner, Grandview was unique in my experience. Each heading (note or item, whatever you wish to call it) could have a full wordprocessing document associated with it. Here is how it worked: Create your heading, press the F5 key (I think that was the key) and you switch to a wordprocessing window in which you could write as much text as you wanted. This was a fully functional wordprocessor (lacking some of today?s whistles and bells, such as tables). Once you were done, hit the F5 key again and return to the outline. Okay that?s not so different than the way some of the two-pane outliners work. But here?s the big difference: Now you can toggle the view so that you can see your outline with just the headers or the entire associated documents in the same pane. I found this very powerful, because good writing involves context. In Grandview you can see the whole project as if it were one long wordprocessing document, or you could view only its outline, or you could focus specifically on one section of the text. This ability to take in the many aspects of your project is the perfect writing environment, in my opinion. I have yet to find that functionality in any other outliner.”
Org-mode does everything listed here. It can even launch programs and files via links within the text.
The indirect-buffer is key to multi-pane outlining.
“When considering single-pane outliners as writers? tools it?s not simply a question of features - although GV can hoist, clone, gather, binsort, attach categories, and so on - but of general usability, and that intangible but important feeling of being in an undistracting ?writer?s environment? rather than in a spreadsheet or PIM. “
Org-mode does this too.
“Think of a two-pane outliner like ActionOutline. You create your structure in the tree pane, and then can write as much as you want in the note/editor window. Now visualize this? in the tree pane you can toggle the view so that you can either see just the item headers or the item headers with the note contents all in the tree view. Not only that, you can select which headers show their content and which do not.”
Does this too.
How are there not any other Org-mode users on this forum? Carsten must suck them all over to his place, never to stray… or even fantasize.