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Posted by Derek Cornish
Dec 16, 2007 at 05:45 AM
Mark wrote:
>I do like the way you can show and hide full documents
>in the outline with just a keystroke. Why are such simple, obvious and useful features
>so rarely emulated?
Why indeed? It’s this ease of getting around and manipulating the outline that is so important. Brainstorm achieves much of this fluidity, too, although it is a rather different beast from GV. Maxthink (DOS) did, too. The windows version has the features, but not yet the fluidity, IMO.
Derek
Posted by Gorski
Dec 16, 2007 at 06:36 PM
All DOS programs, or programs that began with DOS. Maybe there’s something about Windows, with its emphasis on menus, pop-up dialogs, etc., that makes it harder to do, or less likely it will be done with elegance.
Pierre, sorry, but that’s a problem with SQLNotes from my brief experience with it: It throws too much Windows gunk at you when you first start the program.
That’s apparent in your screenshots: http://www.sqlnotes.net/Screenshots/tabid/60/Default.aspx
It gives me a headache just looking at it. My advice would be to strip the interface to its barest essentials—keep all that power, but let the user discover it as needed.
Posted by Graham Rhind
Dec 16, 2007 at 08:00 PM
I have to disagree. I have a real problem with programs that hide their power, and SQLNotes for me would be far better if it showed what it could do - it is crying out for documentation.
That aside, I’ve never quite understood why people require the blank page approach with outliners. Are people really so distracted by a menu? Does a sheet of paper have to be blank to write ideas down on it? I don’t get it, I’m afraid .... perhaps it’s a personal thing.
Graham
Mark wrote:
>All DOS programs, or programs that began with DOS. Maybe there’s something about
>Windows, with its emphasis on menus, pop-up dialogs, etc., that makes it harder to do,
>or less likely it will be done with elegance.
>
>Pierre, sorry, but that’s a problem
>with SQLNotes from my brief experience with it: It throws too much Windows gunk at you
>when you first start the program.
>
>That’s apparent in your screenshots:
>http://www.sqlnotes.net/Screenshots/tabid/60/Default.aspx
>
>It gives me a
>headache just looking at it. My advice would be to strip the interface to its barest
>essentials—keep all that power, but let the user discover it as needed.
>
>
Posted by Gorski
Dec 16, 2007 at 08:57 PM
Yes, definitely a personal thing ;-) To each his own.
Reminds me of the criticism Microsoft gets vis a vis Apple when it comes to design, as embodied in this YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXAcwriid0
Apple’s products under Jobs are more artfully made, but Microsoft has been far more successful the last two decades…
Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Dec 16, 2007 at 09:15 PM
Mark wrote:
>Pierre, sorry, but that’s a problem with SQLNotes from my brief experience with it: It throws too much Windows gunk at you when you first start the program.
A few click and it can look as plain as this:
http://www.sqlnotes.net/public/download/SQLNotes/TextOutliner/SimpleView.jpg
Graham wrote:
>SQLNotes for me would be far better if it showed what it could do - it is crying out for documentation.
Documentation is improving! Checkout the basic documentation and examples here:
http://sqlnotes.wikispaces.com/
and live in the default template (File>New)